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Post by tss on Dec 5, 2008 8:33:03 GMT -5
Sounds normal to me! Apparently raw food brings out a ferrets "wild side", my ferrets have food fights and I've been reading about a lot of other ferrets who do, too!
The sleepiness is normal too, it's winter now. Naturally a ferret will sleep more, in the wild they wouldn't be able to be outside as much and would sleep more.
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Post by Chelsea on Dec 7, 2008 19:46:30 GMT -5
The fighting seems pretty bad... i hope it wont get to violent. As long as they dont bite eachother i dont mind it just seems kinda rough. I got 2 frozen pinkies today when i went to the petstore. They already ate so im going to try and get them to eat it tomarrow when they are hungry. Im going to try and get pics of those mice soon to see if you can tell what kind they are. The pet store guy said they were something like mommet mice? but i never trust petstore people. Omg they got a ferret there, just one little one sitting all by himself in a cage... If he wasnt $150 i would have got him. One of my mice dyed this morning. Not the 2 new ones i got but one of the other 4 different kind i had. I had 1male/3females. The male and 2 females were all white and the other female which i had more recently got (the one i traded the extra boy for)was black. The new black one was the one that died. I went in to check on them and it was laying in the middle of the cage trying to walk reeeeally slowly. I was going to give it to the ferrets but im not going to since i dont know why it died.. it might be sick or somthing. Ever since i got it it always has acted fine, and so do the others. The mice chased her around a little when i first put her in but then they got used to eachother and were fine.. maybe the others attacked her and she got hurt? One other thing i can think of is that she was the one that would always jump on top of the water bottle and climb on the mesh screen top of the cage. Its possible she fell and landed on her head or somthing...
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Post by tss on Dec 7, 2008 22:37:36 GMT -5
Mine scream and tumble around, it lasts until everyone is full. They can't bite eachother since they've got food in their mouths.
I've never heard of mommet mice, it would surprize me if it was just a sales pitch... But I will help you out with the colors once I do see pics.
As for the mouse that died, I wouldn't worry about it. It's not uncommon for them to die soon after getting them just because of various reasons. They are so small something minute can effect them very badly.
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Post by Chelsea on Dec 8, 2008 6:30:29 GMT -5
Mine scream and tumble around, it lasts until everyone is full. They can't bite eachother since they've got food in their mouths. I've never heard of mommet mice, it would surprize me if it was just a sales pitch... But I will help you out with the colors once I do see pics. As for the mouse that died, I wouldn't worry about it. It's not uncommon for them to die soon after getting them just because of various reasons. They are so small something minute can effect them very badly. Ok i just wanted to make they wont kill eachother Yea i know, i never trust petstore people. I wanted to get my mice somewhere else but i dont know any mice breeders in my area.... petco or petsmart would probably have healtier ones, but they are far away from me. Next time i go ill probably get some from there, since the ones i got from the petstore are probably all related (i dont know for sure... but its deffinetly possible) Im going to try and get pics sometimes this week. They are still young, i saw the parents and they are pretty big. Bigger than my other adult "regular" mice. Also... how do you tell if mice are pregnant? My 2 remaining "regular" female mice look like maybe they are pregnant... But i dont know for sure. When i compare them to the male they look almost about the same, but the male is a little bigger than them. So either they are pregnant that the male is just fat.. or they are all just fat lol. Ill get pics of those too so maybe you can tell. The ferrets are always acting like they are hungry now... Is that normal? I think i feed them enough, but even like 2 hours after they eat if i let them out they will be climbing on me and in their "feeding cage" looking for food. They dont seem to play as much, and instead are looking for food. They will seach out even the littlest chunk of chicken bone to eat. I feel kinda bad like i should give them more... even though they seem like they eat enough. No name is pretty heavy now, but Jasper isnt. He still feels sort of skinny (he was skinny when i got him i think because he was being fed cat food.) Hes gotten a little heavier, but not at much at no name. Maybe i should feed him a little more? My no name ferret is getting even more interested in the mice.. He keeps trying to climb the wall up onto the table which the mice are on. I think he might take to eating mice prety quick. We'll see tonight when i try to give them the pinkies.
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Post by tss on Dec 8, 2008 10:45:03 GMT -5
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Post by Chelsea on Dec 9, 2008 7:03:29 GMT -5
The mice dont look exactly like that.. but it seems like they are fatter than when i got them.. I got some pics last night of all of them. The 2 young mice are the same size as the 3 adult "regular" mice that i have. This computer is pretty messed up at the moment, it takes me like 10 minutes to sign on so i dont know when ill be able to get the pics up. Ill try uploading them tomarrow morning. I tried givng them the pinkies last night... they wouldnt even touch them. And even better i lost my bottle of ferretone so i could get them interested in it at all. I have no idea where it is i tore apart the whole room looking for it. I tried kinda rubbing the smell of their chicken on the mouse so it would smell like their normal dinner... but no luck. I put them back in the freezer... i guess im going to have to get some more ferretone if they are ever going to eat it lol.
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Post by tss on Dec 9, 2008 13:20:29 GMT -5
Maybe the mice have just fattened up since they are on a better diet??
As for the pinkies, try cutting them open. It will expose the yumminess inside.
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Post by Chelsea on Dec 9, 2008 18:46:43 GMT -5
Maybe the mice have just fattened up since they are on a better diet?? As for the pinkies, try cutting them open. It will expose the yumminess inside. Is it possible that some mice just wont breed? I havent seem them like mate or anything... but they probably do that at night anyways. The guy at the petstore said those mice have never bred before at the store, but they were also in a 10gal tank with 20 other mice so that might be one of the reasons. I have to cut them open?? Yuck. They already have food out for 2 days and the mice are frozen again so i will try again in a couple days. I gave them each a chicken leg last night, intead of them just sharing one. They both ate most of the meat off the leg but they were so full they didnt bother to chew on the bone. Jasper went and curled up under a sweatshirt on the floor and went to sleep after, it was so cute. No name might possible become Cesar. We're still deciding... It doesnt seem like a ferret name.. but idk it kinda fits him.
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Post by tss on Dec 9, 2008 23:51:38 GMT -5
Hmm, are you sure your male is really a male?? Mating doesn't just happen at night but through most of the day, chances are that if your females were male then there would be fights breaking out. It might just be that they aren't mature yet, or they have bred and you didn't catch them in the act.. For up to 12 hours after breeding there is a way to tell if the female had been bred to.. But I'll spare the detail.
It sounds like your fuzzies are doing really good in the eating department. How are their poops now? Have you tried liver again?
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Post by Chelsea on Dec 10, 2008 6:49:57 GMT -5
Hmm, are you sure your male is really a male?? Mating doesn't just happen at night but through most of the day, chances are that if your females were male then there would be fights breaking out. It might just be that they aren't mature yet, or they have bred and you didn't catch them in the act.. For up to 12 hours after breeding there is a way to tell if the female had been bred to.. But I'll spare the detail. It sounds like your fuzzies are doing really good in the eating department. How are their poops now? Have you tried liver again? Im positive the boy is a boy, and the girls are deffinetly girls. With the girls you can still see the rows of nipples on their bellies. I head that when they are mature you cant see them anymore because the fur grows over them? Maybe they arnt mature enough yet , they are the "feeder" mice at the petstore so maybe they are just young. There were some big and some small in the tank they were in... Even the 2 other mice i have (the young ones) youcant see them on the female, but they have really fluffy fur. The young female is the same size as the regular mice, the male is a little bigger. GRR i forgot my camera... Ill upload them tommarow. Yea i heard there is a way you can tell... i think ill just wait until they get fat.. lol Their poops are... um.. getting a little better. Not much. They are still pretty nasty. I havent gotten any chicken wings yet, as soon as i run out of the legs i will. Maybe it will be easier for them to eat the bones in that. I havent tried liver yet, all i have is beef liver, Bailey loves it, the ferrets not so much. But it does have a very strong smell, it even took Bailey a little while until he liked it. Now he looooves it lol. Ill see if they have any chicken liver/hearts at the store when i get the wings. What about those gizzard things? I saw a big back or them at the store before. Bailey likes them.. How about chicken feet? Not much meat on them, Bailey likes them as a snack. Maybe since its small bones they could eat it all and it would help make their poops normaler?
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Post by tss on Dec 10, 2008 11:00:28 GMT -5
If you can still see their nipples I'd say they are still young, with the mice I had I could only see them for a short amount of time. You can't see them when they are pinkies, only when they are hoppers and up just a bit after that stage.
Since the fuzzies have just been eating legs I'd expect their poops to be off since they don't really eat the leg bones. Wing bones will be really easy to eat, gizzards are meaty meat. They are great to feed but I'd just try and get some more bone in there first, you can use chicken feet, they have nice soft bones.
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Post by Chelsea on Dec 12, 2008 6:51:58 GMT -5
I will hopfully be going to the store tonight. If they have chicken feet,hearts, or livers ill get some. I hope they like them. If not, i know Bailey does. Im leaving for RI tonight to go to my aunts house but so i wont be able to get online i think until sunday-monday. Unless she has internet at her house.
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Post by tss on Dec 12, 2008 9:33:51 GMT -5
Thats, fine. I'll be leaving Tonight as well and will be back Sunday/Monday.. But I should be able to check in.. I'm going to my aunts too!! lol.
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Post by Chelsea on Dec 13, 2008 20:10:19 GMT -5
Thats, fine. I'll be leaving Tonight as well and will be back Sunday/Monday.. But I should be able to check in.. I'm going to my aunts too!! lol. Yay their internet works. lol. I got some chicken wings and gizzards. They were out of livers and hearts.. all they had was beef liver, which they dont like yet. They loved the wings, although it took them a while to figure out how to eat it. Its easier to just pull the meat off a leg than the wings. I only gave them one gizzard so they would eat more of the wing bones but they really liked it.
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Post by Chelsea on Dec 14, 2008 15:38:59 GMT -5
I fed them the chicken wings again last night when i got back and they ate most of it. I left it in their eating cage overnight and let them go in and eat the rest this morning. It was probably out for like over 10 hours but its pretty cold in our house. They seemed alright.. they ferrets didnt act like they smelt funny or anything. I left them in the cage for like a hour and they ate almost all the bone. The onlys bones not eaten was the one at the begining of the wing thats thick.
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