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Post by halblingefrau on Oct 18, 2010 15:00:31 GMT -5
That is what I was thinking. A lot of things seem to be "Monkey see, monkey do" with those kids. I also gave them their frozen rabbit nuggets a little more frozen than normal and Lok and June started to gnaw at it. They're getting the ground meat off, but at least they're learning to gnaw. In fact, maybe gnawing is more natural to them than chunks which is why they don't give a crap about them. Who knows. Going to pick up some drumettes tonight after work.
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Post by sherrylynne on Oct 18, 2010 16:39:35 GMT -5
If they are starting to learn to gnaw on semi frozen ground, after a few days, try them with semi frozen chunks. Not a lot of difference there!
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Post by halblingefrau on Oct 19, 2010 23:10:34 GMT -5
Sherry this is an off topic regarding food but: Asher is biting so bad lately. He bit me on the foot and left a bruise. He's a deafy, so I try the scruff n' drag method. Problem is, often times he bites and then takes off like a rocket so I can't catch him. He thinks its a game. Any suggestions?
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Post by sherrylynne on Oct 20, 2010 17:37:34 GMT -5
If it's become a game, you'll have to ignore him. As hard as that might be. Only thing I found worked was if they bit too hard while playing, game stopped. Period. When they came up to me again- I pushed them away with my foot, or my hand. Not hard, mind you, but firm. And just kept doing it over and over til they wandered off. Or you can just get up and move away from him. It takes a while, but they get the message that biting means mamma isn't going to play anymore. Normally I'd say time outs, but with a "bite and run" obviously that's not going to work. I quit scruffing for bad behaviour after I got a "revenge" biter She'd bite, I'd scruff, she'd tantrum and do everything she could to get at me to bite me harder and harder.
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Post by halblingefrau on Oct 20, 2010 21:53:28 GMT -5
Yeah I do the foot lift. He starts to bug my foot, I kind of lift and nudge him away. I've been trying to scruff him, but i have to bend over and watch to scruff and that's where he's figureing out that he's getting attention. I'll just keep being persistent with the push and redirect (opening the drawer full of packing peanuts). Meantime, I didn't get drumettes b/c the store wanted 15 bucks for a pack of them. I'll wait till they go on sale.
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Post by sherrylynne on Oct 21, 2010 20:08:27 GMT -5
Just be careful that he doesn't associate the biting with the redirect My husband made that mistake with our little biter, and now that's how she tells him it's playtime
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Post by halblingefrau on Oct 21, 2010 21:15:07 GMT -5
Yikes. I'll keep that in mind. In other news, the kids tried some Stella & Chewy's frozen lamb tonight and didn't seem to like it too much. I'll have to mix it in with chicken soupies or S&C duck to get rid of it. Or give the dogs a treat.
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Post by sherrylynne on Oct 22, 2010 8:42:34 GMT -5
You know, it's odd, but I'm still working on getting mine to eat their ground commercial lamb. They'll eat the chunks, no problem, but the ground? Maybe it's the taste of the liver/organ that makes it much stronger, and puts them off it a bit. I've been gradually working it into their diet daily in the mornings when they get their commercial raw for about 3 weeks now. I'm finally up to 1/2 and 1/2 They can be stubborn! But lamb is really good for them, and actually quite taurine rich, as well as adding a good bit of needed fat in their diets.
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Post by halblingefrau on Oct 25, 2010 19:39:32 GMT -5
Well I have to feed Asher solo I think. While the others were eating soupie, he was stashing bits of it. It was dripping out of his mouth and everything. So gross but so funny at the same time. He took it down to the litterbox and stashed it there. YUK.
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Post by halblingefrau on Oct 25, 2010 20:24:32 GMT -5
Also, Loki is now eating chunks! Juno won't have anything to do with them though, even when I scuff. I can't get her to eat any. What can I do?
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Post by sherrylynne on Oct 26, 2010 9:37:36 GMT -5
That's great about Loki! When you feed Juno, does she eat the soup on her own out of a dish? If so, start cutting up toothpick thin bits of meat, and mix the soup in with that. This way, she gets texture without having to chew it just yet. She will still likely stash these small bit for a while, but that's ok. She'll still get some when she's licking up the soup. We are going to have to take it very gradually with her, as I'm sure you've realized What we want to do is trick her into larger and larger bits, but very slowly, by adding more and more meat slivers, and less and less mush, til she's eating just the meat slivers, then you can start adding larger bits. What you may have to wind up doing is what you did with the kibble. Removing access to the soup for up to 12 hours, so she has an appetite.
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Post by halblingefrau on Oct 26, 2010 10:13:58 GMT -5
Yeah I knew I was going to attempt the small pea-sized chunks last night so I didn't put in anything for breakfast. That is what I think got Loki going. He was good and hungry and dived right in next to Asher. Juno wouldn't partake, as I've said. I also took a large chunk of meat and attached it via shower hook to the cage. It was HILARIOUS watching Asher try to stash it. He'd pull and pull and then hiss and then pull some more. Then all of a sudden he gave a huge tug and it ripped the meat right off the hook and away he scurried.
They're getting small chunks again this morning. If Juno doesn't take to them (she should be pretty darned hungry) then I'll start back with soupie and tiny bits this eve.
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Post by sherrylynne on Oct 26, 2010 18:27:10 GMT -5
One thing I found helped slicing up tiny slivers was having the piece of meat partially frozen. Made it much easier to cut toothpick thin bits
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Post by halblingefrau on Oct 26, 2010 20:39:35 GMT -5
Oh that is a good idea! I will try it.
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Post by sherrylynne on Oct 27, 2010 9:35:11 GMT -5
Let me know how it goes. I think Juno might just take a while to completely switch, but we'll get her there
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