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Post by weloveourweasels on Jun 30, 2008 1:57:29 GMT -5
all the gizzards and organs and what not that they need will be in there correct. This thought just crossed my mind since I think it may be difficult obtaining those things since I don't have a drivers license (I ride my bike or walk when i need to get somewhere) Also can you buy whole turkey poults (I think thats what they are called) at the regualr grocery stores?
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Post by buzzonesbirdie on Jun 30, 2008 6:20:51 GMT -5
usually all that stuff is in there when i buy my cornish game hens, but sometimes it is not. ( not sure why this happens).
I am not sure about your turkey question though
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Post by Forum Administrator on Jun 30, 2008 9:20:58 GMT -5
I'll go get amyandfuzzies7. She feeds game hen as the bulk of her ferrets diet. She can help you out. *scurries off to get amy*
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Post by amyandfuzzies6 on Jun 30, 2008 10:05:20 GMT -5
Welcome! My ferts diet consist mainly of Cornish Game Hens. I've found the best place to get them (believe it or not) is Wal-Mart - hopefully you have one within biking distance. I can't beat their price of $1.98 per hen. There are some of the internal organs attached but not all. I usually supplement with chicken/turkey hearts once a week and chicken/turkey gizzards once weekly as well.
I get my hearts (and you can get gizzards & chicken feet also) from Oma's. If you have the freezer space, you can get 30 lbs of turkey hearts for just under $30 - chicken hearts are a tad more expensive. Oh, I also give chicken feet a couple times a week - not everyone eats them but some do. I do find I need to give them salmon oil a couple times a week along with their daily flaxseed oil.
I'm not familiar with turkey poults but you could check Oma's
I've also ordered from Prey4Pets.com and was quite pleased.
Good luck!
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Post by tss on Jun 30, 2008 10:31:13 GMT -5
I haven't bought a cornish hen yet. They should have a heart, liver and gizzard in there but sometimes there isn't anything inside of them.
Heart and gizzard are NOT to be included in the 10% organ ration. You can buy chicken liver in tubs in the meat department.
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Post by amyandfuzzies6 on Jun 30, 2008 15:24:32 GMT -5
I haven't bought a cornish hen yet. They should have a heart, liver and gizzard in there but sometimes there isn't anything inside of them. Heart and gizzard are NOT to be included in the 10% organ ration. You can buy chicken liver in tubs in the meat department. Once in a great while there may be a heart left but not often and I've never found a gizzard. Most do have some liver in them - mine won't touch liver unless it's attached to the bird. Just out of curiosity, why do you state heart should not be included as on organ? Because it is also muscle meat?
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Post by tss on Jun 30, 2008 16:40:10 GMT -5
Because it is only muscle meat. As I've mentioned before. "If it doesn't secrete feed it as meat", heart doesn't secrete it just pumps blood 24/7. Gizzards are a lot like stomachs, stomachs are muscles because the stomach itself doesn't secrete. Lungs are in between, they aren't rich like liver but they have more nutrition then meaty meat because they do secrete.
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Post by weloveourweasels on Jun 30, 2008 17:38:00 GMT -5
Very good answers everyone I'm glad I don't really have to worry about the heards and gizards so much. They have tubs of chicken livers at the main grocery store I plan to be buying from.
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Post by amyandfuzzies6 on Jul 1, 2008 14:46:13 GMT -5
Very good answers everyone I'm glad I don't really have to worry about the heards and gizards so much. They have tubs of chicken livers at the main grocery store I plan to be buying from. Kudos to you if you can get them to eat the liver!!! Mine won't touch it with a ten foot pole. Although, I do suspect they are starting to eat some of the liver on the hens but often times find it mushed onto their tablecloth towel.
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Post by Forum Administrator on Jul 1, 2008 14:48:34 GMT -5
Your ferrest are strange, Amy. Liver is like crack-cocaine in my household lol!
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Post by tss on Jul 1, 2008 15:56:36 GMT -5
My ferrets love liver too, have you tried using another kind of liver? Like beef, veal or pork? I know some dogs are against eating certin species of liver.
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Post by Forum Administrator on Jul 1, 2008 16:23:10 GMT -5
Yeah my guys HATE beef liver but DEVOUR chicken liver
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Post by buzzonesbirdie on Jul 1, 2008 19:21:33 GMT -5
Amy mine wont eat any liver not attached to the animal. so the only liver they are getting is from their prey animals. i have tried chicken, beef, and lamb liver and they dont even look at it. it sits in their cage where i put it until i take it out.
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Post by Heather on Jul 1, 2008 20:59:42 GMT -5
Please remember that when you're feeding whole meats that though the heart isn't considered offal, (it depends on who is addressing this question) that it's a very necessary component. The heart carries the highest amount of taurine, a very necessary component to your prey mix. I always buy my hearts and livers as extra components so that I have enough. I also buy extra gizzards so that the furbabies can have a rough fun time fighting over these choice tidbits. Just my take on this. Are turkey poults those xtra large chickens that you see at the grocery stores?? Remember, too that the bones in that size bird would probably be too large for your furbaby to handle except on a recreational basis. Just my thought on it. I feed quail on a regular basis and the furbabies can handle all the bones in that particular feast. Ciao
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Post by weloveourweasels on Jul 1, 2008 22:11:33 GMT -5
I bought a young whole chicken today (ash free including heart liver and giblets) thinking it was 3.89 (I'm stupid) yeah that d@mn thing cost me almost 12 bux because it was 3.89 a pound hahaha wont be buying from there again. But yea will they be able to eat those bones once they get settled? It is small, a bit bigger than a corish game hen.
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