Not much has changed. Haven't wanted to push anything while Bastien was still not up to par. Melinda has been pigging out but I have been having to finger feed Bastien to get anything in him. He's still not 100% but getting there.
Bastien actually ate on his own this morning First time in two weeks that I haven't had to chase him down to finger feed him!! He still isn't back to normal but hopefully we can get back on track. One step forward, three back - at least that's how it seems
Basically, I have been staying with the same diet - cornish game hen or pork in the morning and beef NV at night. I did try giving them some rabbit (aunt Jeni's) tonight - Melinda wasn't thrilled but she ate some. Bastien would lick some off my finger and then spit it out I ended up being a nice mommy and getting them some NV (Riley of course thought this was great - she had not qualms about eating rabbit!) I also cut up some CGH neck tonight just to see what they would do. Bastien picked up a piece and took it to the corner. He sniffed and licked it but that was all. Melinda didn't even look at them
Melinda has been eating like a pig (she kind of sounds like one too when she is at the bowl!). I don't think she is eating more than usual - she just wants to inhale it as fast as she can. Bastien is still not eating a lot but he is eating on his own for the most part.
I think I am going to order some more NV. They don't seem to like the Aunt Jeni's very much... of course, it may be just that they don't like rabbit or turkey. I will keep trying to give them little bits now and then to see if they will develop a taste for it. So far, all they are eating is chicken (or CGH), pork, and beef NV.
I have been cutting down on the amount of baby food they get with each meal. They are getting better about eating the meat but it's very slow going.
Hope you have fun with your visitors. No worries about not responding quickly enough - I know you are there and that in itself is a big relief! I don't feel like I'm all alone in alien territory
I'm so excited!!! Bastien just ate a piece of CGH neck and is working on another one Ok, so I know I am a dork!!!
Both of the kids had curled up in their cage and I decided to harrass them into playing a little more. Melinda came out to play but Bastien was just laying there looking bored. I don't know why but I picked up a piece of the neck and offered it to him. He licked it and then took it and started chowing down!!!! (tried giving a piece to Melinda - she stashed it )
They are eating four varieties of meat in their diet now and the minumum is 3 so that in itself is an accomplishment. If they had to stay on that in rotation that would be fine, of course if you can get them to eat other things that is great but there is no need to be concerned about it.
Go Bastien, Go Bastien, Gooooo!! *Cheers*
You are certainly not a dork. I've been through what your going through with Weezer and there was a victory dance in store when he decided that RMBs were not poisonis.
Hopefully Melinda will pick up on it.. It seems that sometimes it is inticing enough to other ferrets when they see their siblings eating on some RMBs or when one of them leaves a drooled on, chewed on piece laying there.. They decide they want to try it, and they end up loving it.
Things always end up working themselves out one way or another.
He may take to other bone in bits of CGH now.. Be sure not to go too long between bone in CGH meals or he might loose the liking for bone.. Then you can move on to other bone in meats.
You are doing a great job. With the trial and error you have had I think if you are willing you yourself will become a great mentor one day.
Bastien has eaten a few more bone bits... not consistent at this point, though. Sometimes he looks at me like "what are you giving me THAT for" and other times he takes it. I've tried just putting pieces in their food to see if he will pick them out himself. No luck - although Melinda will steal and stash them
Actually, a little progress on Melinda. She has actually gone back and eaten some of her stashed food a couple of times. (I will take whatever progress I can get at this point )
I have been putting less and less baby food in their meats. We are down to about 1/2 a tablespoon with each meal as long as I add enough water to make soup. Neither one is real excited about the plain meat but they will eat it after drinking up the "juice". If I don't put enough water in the meat, they sniff and walk away
How long do you generally give Melinda before you take away her stashes? She is probably always intending to eat them but doesn't get the chance.
All ferrets apparently prefer the meat juices.. Its yummy and requires less work than meat itself. When my ferrets ate their food soupie they would end up having so much broth they would be full before they got to the meat.. Along with the slowly reducing of the baby food you can try slowly reducing the "broth" if you want, but it doesn't really matter. Its just that broth won't be practical when they are started on whole things like wings and legs.
Have you tried anymore to see about getting chicken legs?
Usually, I leave her stashes alone until I put the kids back in the cage... unless it requires crawling under or moving furniture - then they stay for a day or two I've been leaving some meat and bone in their cage during the day but it hasn't looked like they've been too interested. Melinda did steal a drumstick the other night and I heard a little crunching from under the desk!
Keep meaning to ask, how long can the meat and bones sit safely?
The general rule is 24 hours.. But most or all ferrets manage to hide meat good enough until no one finds it and they let it turn to jerky before they eat it and it doesn't cause them to get sick or anything.. The meat just dries out and has no smell and they eat it up. But they won't eat it if it is rotten, and while you should stay at the 24 hour mark where possible there is absolutely no need to panick if you find some old dried up meat.
I read about someone finding a stashed chicken wing that was about two weeks old!
Thanks Ketlin. That makes me feel better. Don't think I have to worry about finding much 2 weeks later - Riley has figured out where most of the stashes are and cleans them out if she gets the chance (I'm trying to remember to keep the door closed even when Melinda and Bastien are caged)
Sorry I haven't posted in the last couple of days - kept getting distracted. I think I am taking after the ferts - very short attention span
I have been giving less baby food and the fuzzies are getting better at eating the meat. I crushed some chicken thigh bone and they both ate some of it in with their regular meal. (Love the sound of bone being crunched!) I've been putting larger pieces of bone on their plate too so that maybe they will start to associate it with food. Every now and then they will nibble a little piece of meat off but it just takes too much work (brats)
I have noticed that they seem to be more eager for meal time now than they were before. They never finish all that I give them and they seldom eat anything I leave in the cage during the day or overnight so I think they are getting enough (although by the way they run when they see their bowl, you would think they were being starved!)
This weekend the furrbutts weren't really into eating anything - just enough not to starve. (Riley thinks that's just fine! Spoiled mutt )
Overall, they have eaten chicken, CGH, pork, rabbit (Aunt Jeni's), turkey (plain and Aunt Jeni's) and NV beef. Most days they get chicken, CGH or pork in the morning and NV or Aunt Jeni's at night. We've had limited success with chicken necks and backs. I did manage to crush up some chicken thigh bones and they ate them as long as they were mixed up with other stuff.
Slowly getting used to the idea of fat/skin in their food. At first they just spit it out but they are getting better about it - as long as the chunks aren't too big.
They will not touch organs. I've tried chicken and turkey hearts, liver, giblets (whatever they are) and some other unidentified things that have been inside the carcass. Doesn't matter how small I chop them, they get spit out. If I try mixing them in with their soup or mush, even with lots of baby food, the whole lot goes to the dog.
I will try the chicken wings again tonight or tomorrow (not sure I have any thawed right now). Maybe some more tug of war play time...
Going to have to keep working on the chicken wings. Last night I cut the meat but left it attached to the bone so they could figure out that it was food. Bastien pulled off a piece of meat about an inch long and ran to the corner and ate it. After that he wasn't interested anymore and looked a little annoyed when I kept trying to get him to play with it. Melinda tore off a couple of TINY pieces and ran away to eat them. Then she stole the whole wing, stashed it and was done. I tried to get them interested again this morning and it almost worked... both of them decided they wanted the wing at the same time. They played tug of war together for about 2 seconds (really funny to watch ). Melinda won, stashed it and they both lost interest.
Both of them seem to be doing well as far as health. Their coats are thicker and softer. Bastien has NO bald spots and seem to be a bit heftier.
I tried to get pictures of their teeth again - I don't think you could tell much from what I got. I will try again next time I have some help (I left the camera out so maybe I will remember). Anyway, their teeth do seem to be yellower than when we started but the gums still look healthy.