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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 14, 2011 0:15:23 GMT -5
Oh, excellent! Even if you can only give them something like that once a month or so, it would be really good for them. As for Ren, it's going to be a guessing game for now. Sorry he's gotten so bitey.
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Post by jesslough on Jan 21, 2011 0:15:00 GMT -5
Renegade has a salmonella infection. *Sigh* Poor little bugger is going to miss the ferret event I am putting on
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 21, 2011 21:18:47 GMT -5
Oh, that's scary stuff! I'd gather he's on some heavy duty antibiotics for it? You need to be really careful as well. Proper handwashing, etc. It is transferable to you, or anyone else who handles him, or his waste. For right now, I would be giving him solely a cooked soup, not raw, til his little system is at a point where he can handle it again. Do you have a pressure cooker? If so, throw in some chicken, bones and all, and cook according to directions til the bone is so soft you can squish it with your fingers. You need to have the bone at this point, or remove the meat, and puree that separately. Once a carnivore gets salmonella(it is very rare for raw fed canivores to develop this), they have a really difficult time getting rid of it. Kibble fed are more prone to it, simply because of all the bacteria on kibbles. I've never dealt with it myself, so asked Heather about it. Here is her response: *I've never dealt with salmonella I would think that being very careful with the cooked might be the idea. Certainly not kibble as it's been proven that almost 80% carries salmonella anyway. I know that once a carnivore gets this it's very difficult to irradicate. What does her vet suggest in this case? The furkid is obviously getting some very strong antibiotics, right? She's washing up very well after handling the little one? She would be the one most at risk normally I would go with the cooked myself. Boiled down chicken is usually the easiest (cooked until the bones are soft and then just mashed up) Pooka goes on that every time her adrenal goes to hard. It's the easiest to work. You just put together the soupy but it's cooked and entirely balanced ciao * Good luck, and let me know how he's doing!
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Post by jesslough on Jan 22, 2011 0:55:25 GMT -5
The salmonella is actually on top of another infection that he has, poor boy got hit double duty. He is on some Metronidazole now, and if he is not feeling any better come the middle of next week I am calling in for some Amoxicillin on top of it. Then if that does not help we have to go to Baytril to try, and then Prednisone as a very last resort (I do NOT want my guys on Prednisone if I can help it at all, not nice stuff).
Of course, the bugger is acting like nothing is wrong, other than sleeping a bit more often and diarrhea, so when I said I was taking him to the vet my parents thought I was being overprotective... then learned that I was right.
Yep, I was warned that it IS contagious to humans (well, both infections he has going on are) but mentioned that it is also much more of a risk if you have toddlers in the house, which we do not, because they are crawling and are much more likely to eat the poop and not stay clean. Of course my dog is also at risk, so I am keeping a close eye on everybody, luckily if anybody (petwise) DOES get it, it is the same treatment so I can catch it early.
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 22, 2011 12:14:46 GMT -5
It's odd that he's acting normal with a salmonella infection I know this may just be paranoia on my part, but how is your vet with raw feeding? And what is the "other" infection? I'm going to double check, but if I remember correctly all raw fed ferrets will show salmonella in their stools.
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Post by jesslough on Jan 22, 2011 15:04:51 GMT -5
It's odd that he's acting normal with a salmonella infection I know this may just be paranoia on my part, but how is your vet with raw feeding? And what is the "other" infection? I'm going to double check, but if I remember correctly all raw fed ferrets will show salmonella in their stools. Never told my vet he was on a raw diet until AFTER she told me about the salmonella. She loves it, she has 3 (4?) dogs that are all fed raw. I am really not surprised that he is acting like he is fine, he is a little tough bugger who does not let anything slow him down. Including another ferret hanging off his back
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Post by jesslough on Jan 22, 2011 15:05:52 GMT -5
Oops sorry, cannot remember what she said it was, but it is VERY common in ferrets. Like, most common to be causing diarrhea and weightloss in ferrets
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 22, 2011 17:27:22 GMT -5
Well, I was right, and wrong in my answer Turns out ALL animals, kibble and raw fed, show salmonella in their stools Could she have been talking about a bacterial overload? For the other infection, I mean.
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Post by jesslough on Jan 23, 2011 0:42:46 GMT -5
Yah, no it was not a bacterial overload, I knew what it was when she said it, from Vet Tech training, my mind just kind of completely blanked afterwards.
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 23, 2011 0:53:40 GMT -5
I'm drawing a blank, too The only infection any of mine have ever had(cross fingers, knock wood) is a bacterial overload in the gut. Which we successfully treated with yogurt, cooked soupies, and pumpkin, for a week. Either/or, he's getting his meds, and will hopefully be back to himself in no time!
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Post by jesslough on Jan 24, 2011 16:54:31 GMT -5
haha so it totally popped into my mind today. He has a Coccidiosis Parasitic Infection. Yah, see why I could not remember it? LOL He does not seem to be getting much better, so I think I will be putting him on Amoxicillin in a day or so
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 25, 2011 9:32:56 GMT -5
Oh, so not good, poor bud! Yeah, the amoxicillin sounds like a good idea!
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Post by jesslough on Jan 26, 2011 2:28:56 GMT -5
Well he is feeling much better, without the amoxicillin. He even stopped for a kiss from Harley today Unfortunately, it looks like I am going to have to stick with kibble, and just supplement with raw I had a sit down with my parents, and due to freezer space and other logistics, that is how it will have to be I am really sorry to have taken up a spot in the mentor program, and to have wasted your time, but I learned alot Thanks for everything
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 26, 2011 10:39:35 GMT -5
Not a problem! Keep supplementing with the raw soup even, and when you reach a point where you are able to switch them, and you'll have little to no problem Even just that will make a major difference in their health. And no- it was NOT a waste of time or space
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