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Post by sherrylynne on Dec 31, 2010 20:01:00 GMT -5
Ok. I gather stools on kibble were always good too, then. Can you try hand feeding him a couple of times, but slowly. Give him a tsp or so, wait a couple moments, then another tsp, etc. What I'm trying to rule out is whether he's just eating too fast  Also, try him with just one protein at a time for 3-4 days, to also rule out sensitivity to anything. I think we're going to have to go with trial and error here. |
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Post by jesslough on Jan 1, 2011 19:29:28 GMT -5
Sorry, was feeling like absolute crap last night, so took time away from the computer.
Yah, I figured it out. He has a sensitivity to beef. Thinking back on it, every time he puked, he was eating beef. Today is Harley's birthday, so I made them some soup cake... with beef baby food. Low and behold, he puked it all up.
I feel like such a 'tard. I should have put it together.
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 1, 2011 20:48:11 GMT -5
Hey, it happens! I'm just glad you've found the reason  Now, we can get on with the switch. My Boris has a chicken sensitivity, and Vincent has vomiting and bloody diarrhea with beef organs, but can eat the meat itself fine! |
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Post by jesslough on Jan 5, 2011 2:01:40 GMT -5
We have moved to chicken and turkey. Since they are the meats that I know he can handle, and they are all doing well!
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 5, 2011 19:22:02 GMT -5
Ok! Now, are they still eating a puree, or are they getting some chunks in there? And how long have they had the turkey for now?
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Post by jesslough on Jan 7, 2011 23:16:40 GMT -5
They are getting chunks. I am not sure how long they have had the turkey, they have had it for a while now... they have always had turkey baby food as well, so they were used to it.
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 8, 2011 15:52:00 GMT -5
That being the case, I think it's time to reintroduce another meat. You need to find out everything he can handle, and what he can't. We now know he cannot handle beef, so I'd leave the veal off the menu as well for now. You can look at trying it later on if you like.
Since they've already had both cornish hen and duck, one of those might be more readily accepted. Also, start introducing bones, maybe with the cornish hen, since those would be easier for them to eat. Especially the wings, neck, and ribs.
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Post by jesslough on Jan 11, 2011 2:33:50 GMT -5
Oops! So sorry, did not forget about this thread, I just got crazy busy the last few days trying to get everything organized for an event I am hosting in a few short weeks! Cornish hen is on the menu for tomorrow, so I will make sure to throw some bones in there too. Really weird question for you... have you ever noticed a correlation between chunks of meat and more biting? I ask because, while Ren has always been a jerk, he has never purposely bit anybody, especially anybody in this house no matter what we did to him. Granted, there was one small incident at the vets when we gave him his shots last year, but that was a stranger poking him with sharp objects, I do not blame him  However, within like, the last week and a half, he has purposely bitten both my mom and my dad, hard. I am wondering if maybe it has something to do with realizing how strong his teeth are or something. All 3 of them do therapy work with me, and I have recently had to pull him because of the biting, I just could not take that chance -- if he will bite my parents I have a feeling he would bite anybody. |
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 11, 2011 10:13:40 GMT -5
The only behaviour difference I've found with raw was DECREASED biting! How old is he now? The reason I'm asking is aggression is frequently linked with undiagnosed adrenal. Either that, or something has happened to set him off. But since he's never been a biter, I think I'd be talking to the vet about it, sorry  |
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Post by jesslough on Jan 11, 2011 13:11:13 GMT -5
He is 3 (will be 4 in April). He just had a vet check, got blood work, xrays and the works (when we were trying to figure out why he was puking) and it all came back normal, which is the really weird thing. Hmmm ok, I will try to figure it out!
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 11, 2011 14:42:20 GMT -5
Unfortunately, adrenal does not show up on a normal blood panel or x-rays. They actually have to test for sex hormone levels, and even then, they only test for the five most common ones. If it continues, or gets worse, you can have your vet give a lupron shot or two. If he calms down, it's adrenal. If it's not adrenal, it won't affect him at all.
That's actually the only real "test" my vet does. She goes on symptoms alone, and a behavioural change like that is a definite symptom. Not all adrenal ferrets have the typical hair loss. My Zeus certainly didn't. His only symptom was behavioral.
And the best part? If it isn't, it won't have any negative effect!
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Post by jesslough on Jan 13, 2011 20:51:49 GMT -5
Oops sorry, yah, I should have went into more detail After they hit 3 years old, ALL my ferrets are put through annual bloodwork, to test for anything and everything. They also get Melatonin as a preventative, as well as Lupron. In other news, I had some Kangaroo the other day, sent from Australia, some sent for the dog and some for them, they LOVED it! They even took right to the ribs. |
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 13, 2011 21:44:56 GMT -5
Why does that not surprise me  They adore a meat you don't have regular access to As for his biting, were they wearing a different scent? Cologne, deoderant, anything like that he wouldn't be accustomed to? |
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Post by jesslough on Jan 13, 2011 23:05:50 GMT -5
I have no idea. I am guessing they used a new soap or something, or really pissed him off. He just bit my sister, but she smelled like pork, so I am not surprised. He has not bit me yet, so I do not care He needs to go in for a complete annual and shots (that should be fun) in March, so we shall see then if anything changes. |
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Post by jesslough on Jan 13, 2011 23:14:11 GMT -5
OH also, I have a supplier I can get lots of goodies from. Not going to be a main part of their diet, but I am going to order some for my dog and they will have some as well.
Ostrich, Emu, Kangaroo, Elk, and some Alligator.
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