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Post by rarnold18 on Aug 25, 2010 4:22:09 GMT -5
yes ma'am it did!
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Post by bluemoose on Aug 25, 2010 9:50:44 GMT -5
My debate is not whether dogs need variety but how much variety they need. They're getting 3-5 protein sources they just don't get that many every day/week. They get them over the course of a month. I understand a one protein diet isn't optimal but having a staple protein and adding in variety a couple times a week seems reasonable to me. I'm not trying to be difficult or contrary I'm just having trouble understanding how a diet that has worked for other people through entire dog lifetimes (a diet of primarily but not exclusively chicken) can be so unhealthy.
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Post by horse656 on Aug 25, 2010 11:17:33 GMT -5
I'm just having trouble understanding how a diet that has worked for other people through entire dog lifetimes (a diet of primarily but not exclusively chicken) can be so unhealthy. that's the thing though. its just chicken. only chicken and supplements. so that's why its unhealthy. think of it this way, only having chicken and supplements to eat for your entire life time. you're going to be lacking somewhere along the lines with something. and if you are, you're going to get it with supplements. i don't know if that makes sense to other people, but it makes sense to me
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Post by bluemoose on Aug 25, 2010 11:22:00 GMT -5
No, not just chicken. Primarily chicken. I get that JUST chicken isn't the most healthy diet. What I'm curious about is the amount and frequency of variety away from chicken. Apparently this is getting too confusing so I'm just going to drop it
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Post by horse656 on Aug 25, 2010 11:24:44 GMT -5
well its still primarily chicken, so it would be like chicken 6 days a week and something else the other day. that's how i understand it would be like.
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Post by zoologist on Aug 25, 2010 17:35:30 GMT -5
well, this is a hot topic- eh?
Heather, I hope you don't mind but I took the liberty to share your first response with the cat forum (sorry everyone else, you hadn't responded yet!) This was the response:
Sigh. I'm just going to drop it. there is no arguing with this person. I may continue the arguments in PMs but I don't want to keep it up on a topic.
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Post by Heather on Aug 25, 2010 21:26:18 GMT -5
There are people that you just can't tell any different. Yes, the Pottinger study was flawed but it also points to feeding only one protein source can and does have a negative impact. Yes, barn cats live or exist in their little worlds but they don't live on a single protein source. Far from it. They eat baby animals (rabbits, birds, squirrels), they eat rats, mice, birds, bugs and when nothing else is available they scavenge. Ever seen a barn cat or feral pass up an open trash bin?...not likely. Yes, they exist but has anyone checked as to the lifespan of a feral or barn cat? They die young, some get to live for years, but most don't. Is it diet related? Possibly....think about it a poor diet allows bacterial and viral attacks on the immune system making them vulnerable to disease, other hunters even their own kind. No, I stand by what I was taught years ago, the greater the variety offered the better the rate of survival and the better coverage of nutrients. True carnivores, cats, ferrets they need almost daily changes of proteins. Dogs....their needs are possibly less dire, allowing for longer periods of the same protein source but...you still need to fill those needs or you're going to face problems. ciao
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