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Post by fertsru on Sept 22, 2009 0:51:08 GMT -5
I can't switch my two Marshalls to raw and at the same time, I would like to limit the amount of kibble the new guy eats since he is in the same cage with them. Is there a way to keep him full with raw and whole prey? The reason for the question is: he'd eat two chicken wings in the morning, gobble some kibble in the meantime, and eat 5 small pinkies at night, and still looks hungry!!! He is only 4,5 months old and already weighs 3.9 lb. He seems to be always hungry. Tonight he even bit me for not being quick enough while getting the mice from the zip-lock bag. A little observation on my two poor aristocrats, who would neatly eat the kibble, won't even consider his yucky stuff. Would look at him in dismay for sleeping in the litter box and munching on chicken gizzards. I already tried the gradual introduction with them before the new guy joined them. They'd eat some cooked chicken/kibble soup, but once they taste some raw in it, they refuse to try it. Ferrotone, life mice, force feeding - done it all. Well, maybe there is no good answer. I just had to whine to somebody who'd understand the dilemma.
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Post by Heather on Sept 22, 2009 1:05:00 GMT -5
You've just not hit the right mix for your little marshal's furbrats...they know you'll cave to their little kibble desires Your kit is hungry....really hungry. Napoleon at that age thought nothing of eating 2 or 3 whole mice at a sitting...pinkies are just snacks, little tidbits . I've seen him tuck in and clean up half a chicken leg. Napoleon weighs about the same amount as your baby boy, Attila (RIP) weighed in at just under 5 lbs and would eat up to 4 full grown mice in an hour. Kits tuck away a ton of food and he wants real food, not kibbles. You've mentioned that you've tried to switch your 2 other furbabies. How old are they and what process did you use? Might I make a suggestion that you sign up for a mentor...they're really good at what they do . I've had over 30 ferrets through my house and every one of them eats raw. My oldest furbrat, Babushka was 9 yrs old when I switched her (she's now 11). My most difficult, was a sweet little marshal's, Calypso who was only 3 yrs old but she took her royal time switching up. It took me about 6 months give or take a month She now hunts her own food Offer your little piggy boy more food he's just hungry ciao
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Post by fertsru on Sept 22, 2009 1:26:59 GMT -5
OK, he'll get as much as he wants to then. Jeez, just don't bite me! About the Marshall's: Lola (F) is approximately 4 years old, Sladkiy (M) is 2 years old. I tried life mice, which they killed and didn't want anything to do with it, even when covered with ferrotone. I got them to eat the soup. I started it with basics: cooked chicken blended with kibble, which they ate. I started adding raw chicken to the soup - they immediately refused to eat it. I tried to feed them from my finger, rub it on their gums, taking kibble out completely, all to no avail. I'll keep on trying different recipes, since Kirby would clean up anything anyway. Will see if I can get them to switch to raw. For now, the solution for the new guy, Kirby, is to make sure he is full. This idea sounds a bit scary because his butt is already so heavy that he can't pull himself up on the couch. Here is the apple of discord himself:
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Post by sherrylynne on Sept 22, 2009 21:57:45 GMT -5
It took me almost 6 weeks to get one of my Marshall's to accept even raw soup. With some of them, you just have to outstubborn them . With Boris, once he FINALLY willingly ate the soups, he transitioned to chunks very quickly. I'm with Heather- sign yourself up for a mentor. We'll get them ALL eating raw. It just takes some time and some work.
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Post by Heather on Sept 22, 2009 22:41:55 GMT -5
You're little lardbutt is adorable but(t) don't be too hard on him. We've all got one or two who carry a wide load ciao
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Post by fertsru on Sept 22, 2009 23:46:36 GMT -5
Oh, I absolutely adore his heavy side Despite his young age, he already lets me cuddle with him. He looks like a teddy bear especially when see his cute wide face and big paws. He is actually my dream ferret that I've been trying to get for about two years. This year I finally reserved a kit in time before they all got sold out. I'm not in the point in life when I can devote extra time for raw transition to two of my older dookers. I might come back to it in a few months. Thanks for the suggestion to join the mentor project. I took your advice and started to give him more raw meats and mice. He didn't even try kibble yesterday and today. If you guys don't mind, I'll just keep on asking occasional questions here on the general forum.
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Post by fertsru on Sept 23, 2009 13:55:29 GMT -5
Just found in some previous threads that freeze-dried food is a step to raw foods. I know Sladkiy loves Wyson Arch. 1 and eats the soup, so is he just a step away from the raw? I have the perfect tiny hairless pinkies for the newbie but he won't pick them up. What's the next nudge to get him to try the mice? It just feels like that they are opposed to the idea of anything unprocessed. Hmmmmm, I'm talking about my ferrets not my son.
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Post by sherrylynne on Sept 23, 2009 19:06:16 GMT -5
If they'll take the Wysong's that's great!! Go for it. For the pinkies, I had to chop them up and mix them into the regular raw meat first, so they got the taste of them.
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Post by ccretarolo on Sept 23, 2009 19:27:06 GMT -5
Have you tried Pingford's Porridge? If I remember correctly, it's an all freeze dried meat soup mix. Getting them to eat it would be a huge step in the right direction (plus you would be supporting shelters at the same time).
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