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Post by Jaycee on Jul 26, 2008 13:31:01 GMT -5
Lol, nope, the Pope travels too much for any shelter or rescue. These are the exact reasons why i have always wanted to start my own rescue, and I did rescue a bit years ago, but in the smallest way. I was picky with whom I adopted dogs to, but I was not restrctive. And personally I think an apartment dweller would be a better owner then a person with a fenced back yard. Instead of just tossing thedog into the back yard, they have to take the dog out for a walk and interact with it at the same time. It's that interaction that a dog craves. Its not as simple as emptying its bowels. .......and the pope doesn't have a fence either! I agree with your statement, but unfortunately others don't!
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Post by aleronferrets on Jul 27, 2008 11:21:18 GMT -5
The death rate of a shelter animal doesn't have to be as high as it is. The death rate in private and "modern" shelters has been steadily in a decline over the past 10 or so years. Shelters don't want you to know that though because that is how they win over donations and adopters. Many shelters now regularly take in dogs from other states or other countries to adopt out, which is a ure sign things have overall improved. Shelters which still euthanize large numbers of animals tend to be shelters which are not set up for adoptions, "old fashioned" shelters such as the rural county pounds. The job of these shelters is not to find homes for unwanted animals but to dispose of unwanted animals. They will adopt out but most generally give less than a week for animals to find homes. They also tend to have limited hours for people to come see the animals. Our county pound here until last year was only open 9am - 4pm Mon - Fri. They now have later hours on Weds and are open until 7, which (along with having the dogs on petfinder and a local rescue who only takes "time's up" dogs form this pound) has improved their adoption rate. They are only legally required to hold strays 72 hours though and not required to hold owner surrenders at all, so their time is still up pretty quickly. The dogs are in stacked vet style cages and there is little chance to interact with them privately before deciding to adopt, so it still isn't a place most people want to go to adopt a dog. That isn't the fault of overpopulation, it is a lack of trying to place the animals.
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Post by kaznalf on Jul 27, 2008 12:34:53 GMT -5
Ive adopted both mine through a rescue and maybe they arent as strict in the UK but they had no quarms about me feeding them raw. Mine have come vaccinated through the shelter but as long as i had a hutch and run they basically let you adopt without any thought.
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Post by Forum Administrator on Jul 28, 2008 11:31:01 GMT -5
Kaznalf from what I understand because many people "work" their ferrets in the UK its not that "weird" to hear that some people feed their ferrets raw foods (or the rabbits they are used to chase.) I does seem that UK ferrets are more apt to be fed a natural diet, so perhaps this is why your rescue was not "upset" or "horrified" when they found what you planned to feed your ferrets.
When I adopted from MorningStarr Animal Sanctuary in Flagstaff, AZ the owners were very open to hearing what I planned to feed the ferrets I adopted. They asked questions, just wanted to make sure I "knew my stuff" and then they were OK with it. They could tell I loved my ferrets and that I would never do something to intentionally endanger them.
Now having to place my own furbabies for adoption myself I know WHY people are so picky when you have to adopt out ferrets. You dont know these people. For all you know they could be lying! What if you give your little one to a "good" home only to find out later that they were killed or abused?
If you sit and talk with people for a while you can USUALLY get a "feel" for that person, but some resuces arent willing to sit and talk with you for hours. They just dont have the time (sick ferrets to care for, litter pans to scoop).
Its a sucky situation because I can see both sides of the story.
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Post by christysferretlov on Jul 31, 2008 0:27:44 GMT -5
I understand both points of view. I've refused to place a ferret in a home with young children but that being said I was standing talking with these people for a couple of hours. I saw what their children were allowed to do, how they were disciplined and what respect was given to my ferrets. They went out and bought a furbaby after I refused them, anyway. Now, little Thor lives with me. Guess I figured that one out right but another furbaby paid the price for them to figure it out All my furbabies had to go to raw feeding, holistic based homes. I don't bother any more (placing that is), I now run a rescue/sanctuary. We don't have the huge numbers of ferrets that you have available down in the states. The most that I've ever had in rescue at one time is 18, that's my limit. I'm more comfortable with 13 or 14 but 18 was doable. I know that I once had a late night conversation with Randy Belair -- Ferret Aid and she admitted that she would place with me if I asked, even though her forms claim that the ferrets have to be fed high end kibble and be vaccinated. I don't vaccinate and have always fed raw. Actually, I presently have one of her rescues here. I rescued him from a lady who got in over her head with ferrets. Loki was one of this lady's first ferrets and Randi had warned her that he could be very aggressive towards other ferrets. He most definitely can be, but he's good with the furbrats for the most part. There are a couple he doesn't like but I keep them seperate. Poor Loki, he's been rescued so many times....he gets to live here for the rest of his days. I couldn't part with him. Randi let me keep him The one thing you have to remember is that most rescues (not all) are trying to find the best possible homes for these furbabies. The cost of error is huge, possibly the life of the ferret at worst, a rehome at best. The cost to the person who places the ferret in the wrong home....huge if they have any type of concience I couldn't deal with that part of it. That's why I don't rehome anymore. I'd like to think that people don't lie to get a furbaby but I know it's wrong. I hate having to try and second guess why people want to have a ferret, if they're really going to be a good home or are they telling me everything I want to hear just so that they can get one of my furbabies. Just my thoughts on this. I agree ,thats why I have 11.I have seen too much and once a ferret is in my home they are part of the family and I could never see them in bad situation that I put them in.I couldnt do it.I have had anyone I have gotten a ferert from come to my home meet my kids and children and know how well their ferret will be treated.i encourage it,I also keep in touch with most of them .
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