Post by goingpostal on Jan 29, 2011 14:25:10 GMT -5
That cat, OMG, she will be the death of me! I had given her just the leftover pork bone with meat attached, she didn't eat much and she puked up a good amount of my rubber mat she keeps eating too. Then this morning I had bought dog chow for my mice since I'm out of lab block, she got into that and stuffed her face! I'm sure that's coming back up. She had puked up raw ground venison when I fed that too, again she only ate a tiny amount but she eats canned Evo venison? Makes no sense. She eats CGH and chicken pieces with bone fine. She refuses beef, cooked or raw. She may be only going partially raw if I can't find enough protein sources she can eat well. She loves her mice though, she was pretty miffed she didn't get any today yet but not risking that while she's pukey and full of crap dog food.
Back to the ferrets I'm going to try and clear out the rest of my ground meat, some turkey and some venison, putting larger chunks of chicken and turkey in there and hopefully get them off needing the canned food in there altogether, I don't have much left so they need to deal with it, lol.
Post by sherrylynne on Jan 29, 2011 15:44:56 GMT -5
For the ferrets, that sounds like a good plan. To get them all over on the raw, it's just going to take patience and persistence. And I'd swear SOME ferrets could try the patience of a saint For your kitty, try just giving her 3-4 little pieces at a time. Then wait 5 minutes or so, and another 2-3 pieces if she keeps the first down. If not, you might have to look into trying some probiotics with her.
Post by goingpostal on Jan 30, 2011 0:37:57 GMT -5
I checked on them this afternoon and there was only part of one mouse left so I gave them 3 more, found just most of one left now tonight so gave them another, actually let Pip take this one out, he gets so excited about eating a mouse he forgets to kill it, just grabs it by the tail to drag it off. Had to take it away and make him try again, he was quite the site hanging on to "his" mouse for dear life, then Pandora took it and a little later Craven was chowing down. Funny how they make the rounds with food even if they don't really want it.
Gotta say I so prefer real raw poop to soupies poo, they have been messy and smelly lately so today has been lovely. Or as lovely as a good poop day can be I guess. Life of a ferret owner. Tomorrow will be ground venison and chicken chunks, large for the advanced eaters and chopped for the others, I'm going to try leaving out the canned food at first and see if they will eat this just watered down a bit.
Post by goingpostal on Jan 30, 2011 9:23:20 GMT -5
Yeah I think I'm going to order some powered eggshell and taurine tomorrow, I don't have a mortar/pestle and for the cost of getting one, plus saving all the eggshells etc, seems easier to just buy some, lol. Still no luck on just plain pumpkin either but I could get ambitious and cook some squash, I just bought one for the iggy. Gonna go make them breakfast because they are up and looking at me like "get with the food mom!".
Post by goingpostal on Jan 30, 2011 22:59:39 GMT -5
Ended up adding some more water to the venison to get more eaten before I headed to work and just put in some chicken chunks for nighttime, Pip and Pandora were both eating some, Craven I brought over a piece with skin and I don't know if he choked a bit or what but got a funny look and ran away spitting some out, after eating it so well too. I'm not sure if he's going to go for more chicken tonight so I put some kibble back in for him. The meat was off a thigh and I gave the cat the part with the bone and she was chowing down.
Off topic had some saltwater club members at my house today and the one lady apparently used to have ferrets for over 20 years a long time ago, got them from breeders not like the mills and they were intact, but she said they still all died quite young from various cancers. Kind of interesting anyways, said hers were a lot larger than mine! She was pretty amazed that I feed mine raw, said no one had ever told her they could eat mice and whatnot.
Post by sherrylynne on Jan 30, 2011 23:12:59 GMT -5
It seems diet does tell out, doesn't it? She fed kibble, and her ferrets developed a lot of the problems we see today And yes, breeder ferrets are generally a lot larger than our mill babies. It's the early spay/neuter that keeps them tiny. That, and the fact some mills breed for smaller, cuter looking ferrets. With Craven, it's possible he may have choked on it a bit. He might be a bit leery of the chicken for a couple of days, but then again, he may not. I had a bad choking episode with Vincent when we were first starting out. Scared the bejeepers out of both him and I! It quite literally put him off trying raw for a few days, and he only started again because I kept coaxing him. The good thing about the raw is they'll generally be able to dislodge whatever it is, simply because it's wet and slimy, so will come back up far easier than a piece of dried kibble.
Post by goingpostal on Jan 30, 2011 23:28:50 GMT -5
I think they are going to get ground turkey tomorrow, I forgot with all the people over earlier and then I went to work and didn't take out more meat, I'm not used to this frozen thing yet, might take out some of that pork as well for chunks.
Post by sherrylynne on Jan 31, 2011 0:28:16 GMT -5
Don't feel bad- I still do it They were supposed to get rabbit tonight. Unfortunately, it takes the better part of 24 hours to thaw out an entire rabbit big enough to feed 9. Guess who's not getting any bunny meat til next week Then there are the times I have to stop on the way home because, guess what? I remember on the way home- oops! pork chunks tonight Now, it doesn't happen often, but it does continue to happen!
Post by goingpostal on Jan 31, 2011 9:32:41 GMT -5
Well I don't feel so bad then! This morning all the bowls were cleaned out, no chicken, no venison, all gone! Made them pork mush with some larger chunks in there, some ground turkey, fish oil and a chicken liver. Koda dug right in and Pandora was checking it out right away, I'm stuck babysitting today so can't hang out and check on them until my niece goes to school. I think I'll take out some gizzards for tomorrow. Make them do some chewing.
Post by goingpostal on Jan 31, 2011 20:23:37 GMT -5
Think I'll toss an egg into dinner tonight, for kitty too, got a couple left and they are going to go bad otherwise.
I was looking at hare today, I like that they don't require overnight shipping, still not cheap but not $50. I was looking in case I need to order some organs, I know I should get heart, and kidney? Liver I can get locally beef/chicken/turkey so not worried about that. Also might get some of those pinkie rabbits and was wondering about the rabbit heads, figured they could get brain that way (gross btw) . Maybe some duck or some other meat I can't get easily too, going to wait under my whole prey order comes in first to see how much freezer room I have left.