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Post by comadrejaloquita14 on Jan 25, 2011 9:52:48 GMT -5
I have been cutting everything by hand since we don't have a blender. My fiancee thinks that buying a blender for the special purpose of making the ferts soupies is over the top  Well I finally convinced him sunday night while we were at walmart that we should get a blender. Last night while he was at work I thought "Let me try to puree the meat and make a smoother soup!" I was so excited! I didnt use any recepies from here, I kinda made my own because I was just doing a little and it was more of an experiment with the blender than anything else. The meat I was experimenting with apparently has a lot of hair-like thick strings of fat (We always have beef butt, the ferts love beef butt and so do we so thats what I used) Usually I remove all the toughest "strings" but I thought the blender would just puree them. No. They got caught around the blades and it made an aweful noise like the motor was going to over heat/burn out. I stopped it and it took me like an hour and a half to remove each and every "string" wrapped around the blade base. My fiancee is 100% pro raw feeding, however- if he found out that the first thing I used the blender for was fert food he would've freaked. I finally got it clean and to the point where you wouldnt be able to tell but I was wondering if anyone had tips on how to clean the blade area w/o cutting my fingers all up? I had to use another razor to get in the thin area between the base and the blades and that was pretty painful too  But it was worth it because the kids freakin loved the soup- however, any tips on cleaning? Can the blade part go in the washer? It doesnt say weather or not its washer safe in the book so I assume no (its a GE single serve blender, very nice and small and space saving) Also, I had left over from the last soup I made. I think I made way more then they could've possibly eaten before it went bad (mostly because I was planning on sharing some with my best friend and her 3 fuzzies but she got sick and I havent seen her) So before it went "ripe" as one may say, I put it on the kitchen floor for Tequila (my Chihuahua) and he devoured most of it. Mojito ate some too, Kahlua was more interested in the one I was making. About a half hour after Tequila threw up most of the hunks of meat, he was throwing up for a good part of the night. I felt aweful and I dont understand seeing as all it had in it was meat, blood, beef baby food (only ingredients of which were beef and beef broth) ferret kibble (which he steals all the time anyway) and less than a tea spoon of ferretvite. I don't know why he was throwing up  According to like EVERYONE it would be equally beneficial to put him on a raw diet too so I dont understand. He was fine after he threw up 5 times, by 3 am I stopped worrying enough to go to sleep (He has a sensitive tummy, usually if he throws up anything but bile it means we are going to have to go to the emergancy vet) Mojito, who ate from the same exact bowl with him, was fine! I dont get it! Anyone have any clue? |
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Post by horse656 on Jan 25, 2011 10:11:34 GMT -5
it could have been that he still had kibble in his stomach from eating it from before?
or he could have a sensitivity to beef, i know one person on here, i think it's sherrylynne, who has a fuzz who can't eat beef at all.
you should be able to put it in the dishwasher, but if your iffy on that call the number thing they give you on the manual and ask.
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Post by comadrejaloquita14 on Jan 25, 2011 10:32:26 GMT -5
it could have been that he still had kibble in his stomach from eating it from before? or he could have a sensitivity to beef, i know one person on here, i think it's sherrylynne, who has a fuzz who can't eat beef at all. you should be able to put it in the dishwasher, but if your iffy on that call the number thing they give you on the manual and ask. Thanks I hadnt even thought to do that amoung all the comotion  Tequila (the one who got sick) isnt a fert, hes my Chihuahua. I jst thought it was weird that even though Kahlua and Mojito (the ferrets) had eatten the same soup, Mojito even ate it from the same bowl- sharing/stealing it from Tequila and they were fine. I wouldve thought maybe beef doesnt agree with him but he has eatten beef before, albeit usually cooked (I think on like 2 or 3 other ocassions hes eaten raw or licked the spoon after I've prepared soupie for Kahlua and Mojito) and hes never had a problem before. Im worried that it was spoiled and thats why he got sick and I'm afraid that Kahlua and Mojito will get sick too- though they were fine all last night and this morning. Maybe I am just being a worry wort |
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 25, 2011 12:44:43 GMT -5
It's also possible that Tequila simply ate it too fast! Although he could be sensitive to it as well. You can they giving him a MUCH smaller portion next time. Just an FYI? I always freeze leftover soup in ice cube trays, then baggie the cubes  Perfect serving sizes for the ferrets  |
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Post by katt on Jan 25, 2011 13:32:28 GMT -5
Yes you can freeze soupies and it is great! As a not about your dog, I have always heard that dogs MUST be switched more gradually or they will get sick. Maybe next time instead of feeding him a bowl of soup, pour some soup over his kibble like gravy. A beef sensitivity is definitely possible too. |
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Post by comadrejaloquita14 on Jan 25, 2011 15:23:26 GMT -5
It's also possible that Tequila simply ate it too fast! Although he could be sensitive to it as well. You can they giving him a MUCH smaller portion next time. Just an FYI? I always freeze leftover soup in ice cube trays, then baggie the cubes Perfect serving sizes for the ferrets We dont have ice cube trays and our fridge makes ice automatically, my fiancee isnt the most understanding about baby steps. He is all about the raw diet and will ocassionally sit and listen if he is well rested and in a good mood (hes a good man with a good heart but hes really stuck in his ways. we actually got in a pretty big fight about this last night. He said that it was because I have always babied Tequila and given him kibble so raw upset his stomach, then he proceeded to get mad at me because I wouldnt give Tequila anything to eat from the moment he started throwing up until this morning. He is a health young Chi- its better I take away the food source this way I know that the throwing up is food rooted and not that he has some kind of bug- he wouldnt listen to my reasoning and said I was being cruel. He is really hard headed sometimes) As far as the ferrets, he is convinced that if I throw some meat in the cage they will eat it when they get hungry enough, he works long hard shifts so I dont press these matters.. I just do what i want when he is at work- he usually doesnt notice because there is no evidence BUT if I buy ice cube trays specifically for portioning, he might get mad. Then again i could be cutting him short, I havent even asked him what he thinks of the idea... maybe he will go for it. I will ask tonight. I had ment to ask on here though, just in case, is there another way to save it in small portions? I make one big batch and give them helpings from the batch, problem is though that the large batch (its saved in a normal tuperwear container) goes bad quicker since its being frozen and unfrozen repetitively and frequently. When you say you make them in freezer trays then baggie them, what exactally do you mean? |
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Post by justahannah on Jan 25, 2011 15:29:23 GMT -5
I don't use a blender for soups anymore...I picked up an antique one of these for $5 at a goodwill (http://www.miracleexclusives.net/manual-meat-grinder-512in-p-84.html) . Clean-up's way easier and safer since there are no blades, and mine came with 3 grinding plates so I use a fine grind for making soups and a course grind when I'm putting together my organ meals since the kids won't eat them straight. No more untangling tendons and I know my blender's still good for smoothies . Edit: If you freeze the soup in a cube tray, then dump them in a ziploc or tupperware, you can pull out a cube or two at a time as needed, so the whole bowl isn't being thawed and refrozen, so it makes portion control and preserving the soup a lot easier. I pretty much do the same with all my feeding...every couple weeks I buy all of my animal meats, put meal-sized portions in sandwich baggies, and freeze it...then I just have to pull out a baggie at a time to thaw and dump in the bowl, and all the prep work is done for a couple weeks at a time . |
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Post by comadrejaloquita14 on Jan 25, 2011 15:45:46 GMT -5
Yes you can freeze soupies and it is great! As a not about your dog, I have always heard that dogs MUST be switched more gradually or they will get sick. Maybe next time instead of feeding him a bowl of soup, pour some soup over his kibble like gravy. A beef sensitivity is definitely possible too. Thanks, Ill try that. The soup had been frozen, I make a batch and freeze it, then I defrost it and serve them helpings (defrosting and freezing each time I serve it) - the batch usually lasts me a week, however if there is some left over I usually give it to Sailor Jerry since he is a semi-feral who hunts squirrels and, although he is usually picky (his menu has increased since I started caring for him but it was - canned friskies, hot dog hunks, squirrels, sardines and tuna. He has no front teeth so he isnt fond of anything 'hard') he loves my home made soupies though so usually if there is left over soupie from the week, i was giving it to Sailor Jerry. I started feeling bad though because Tequila always wants it. I have let him lick the spoon before, I have let him have bits and peices of raw on rare ocassions and he eats cooked unseasoned meats (incl beef) so thats why I was suprised. He may have been really excited and eaten it really quickly- that is quite a possiblity with him. And I was thinking about the beef sensitivity.... I really dont think thats a possibility, usually diarrhea for him = vet/emergancy visit (because his condition usually gets worse with every moment even though I watch over him like a hawk) after which they have me make hamburger meat with white rice, he loves this and never has a problem. The other weird thing about last night is he got better on his own within a few hours. It was like he threw up what was bugging him and that was it, he was fine. No rice, no bland diet, no vet, no dehydration, no iv-- it was like a mericle (the last upset before this was the worst, he got critical so quickly....he was showing some signs of dehydration when I got home from work but was holding down water. On the way to the vet he started throwing up water and was critically dehydrated by the time we got into the exam room to see the vet (vet is 20 mins away and we waited another 25 mins to see anyone even though he was obv severly dehydrated when we arrived, he was throwing up water at 10-15 min intervals)- This was probably because I had to work late that evening, we were changing food (this was before i learned all i know now and we were just upgrading kibble) and the owners of the home where we rented a room liked to keep the heat on at (no lie) 80 degrees in the virginia summer and our room was in direct line of the sun.. I am, needless to say, terribly paranoid since then. Ahh that was really long, lol thanks for the reply. I will try feeding more privately and although it was only the scraps of soup left from last week, I will try something smaller. I fed it to him while Kahlua and Mojito were out, he might have felt it necessary to 'gobble' so feeding him alone will kill that urge. Thank you thank you |
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Post by comadrejaloquita14 on Jan 25, 2011 15:48:28 GMT -5
I don't use a blender for soups anymore...I picked up an antique one of these for $5 at a goodwill (http://www.miracleexclusives.net/manual-meat-grinder-512in-p-84.html) . Clean-up's way easier and safer since there are no blades, and mine came with 3 grinding plates so I use a fine grind for making soups and a course grind when I'm putting together my organ meals since the kids won't eat them straight. No more untangling tendons and I know my blender's still good for smoothies . Edit: If you freeze the soup in a cube tray, then dump them in a ziploc or tupperware, you can pull out a cube or two at a time as needed, so the whole bowl isn't being thawed and refrozen, so it makes portion control and preserving the soup a lot easier. I pretty much do the same with all my feeding...every couple weeks I buy all of my animal meats, put meal-sized portions in sandwich baggies, and freeze it...then I just have to pull out a baggie at a time to thaw and dump in the bowl, and all the prep work is done for a couple weeks at a time . Ahh I understand now, lol thank you!! I am going to talk to my fiancee about getting an ice cube tray and then I will look into one of those. It looks mighty familiar.. maybe my mom has one? I cant place where Ive seen it though I will get to the bottom of it lol |
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Post by katt on Jan 25, 2011 16:06:30 GMT -5
Sandwich or snack sized freezer baggies work great. Just be sure that, whatever shape you want them to be, is the shape they are laid in when you put them in the freezer. If you make them thin and flat, they are easy to crack into pieces while still frozen also.
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Post by comadrejaloquita14 on Jan 25, 2011 16:12:55 GMT -5
Sandwich or snack sized freezer baggies work great. Just be sure that, whatever shape you want them to be, is the shape they are laid in when you put them in the freezer. If you make them thin and flat, they are easy to crack into pieces while still frozen also. Thank you, I will keep that in mind. I have a fresh soupie made last night that I froze and then put in the fridge today so it will be defrosted when i get home, I will portion it out tonight in sandwitch bags for the time being |
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Post by rarnold18 on Jan 25, 2011 18:49:28 GMT -5
beef sensitivity in dogs will more likely show up as a constant itching, rash, and hotspots (listerine is a great treatment for hotspots, just make sure you use the plain yellow/gold-ish one and not one that is mint flavored) It's most likely that he ate the food too fast, which happens. If your not feeding him any bone he will have loose stools (without any bone or eggshell it will be pretty close to liquid) because raw is digested much quicker than kibble that's why it's usually recomended not to mix the two. I switched my dogs cold turkey once the bag of kibble was gone their next meal was chicken necks. This, at the time of our switch, included my 13 year old Chihuahua, Lola. Beef might just be too rich for his system. Start with chicken which is bland and feed only chicken for two weeks, then slowly add another protien beef, pork, lamb...and only have that for two weeks that way if there is an allergy you know what caused it, if after two weeks with the new protien has gone well then add another protien... that way his body has time to adjust to eating raw (with the blander chicken) you can weed out any allergies or reactions, and you know exactly what was fed when you have questionable poo's... for my dogs, beef gives them horrible, clear the room open all the windows gas....but they love it! We call them beef farts! |
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Post by sherrylynne on Jan 25, 2011 23:22:11 GMT -5
I've always fed a soup to my ferrets weekly, just in case they get sick. It's a lot easier to get them to eat a semi liquid food when they don't feel well. But if they don't know the soup is food already(ie: weekly feedings), then they won't accept it when they most need it There's your reason for feeding soups |
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Post by joclyn on Jan 27, 2011 20:00:11 GMT -5
you can get ice cube trays at the dollar store - i've seen them as single items, a pair and also as a 3-pack at various places.
buying trays will be cheaper than using baggies because it's easier to wash the trays to reuse than to wash the baggies to reuse. baggies are very expensive!
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Post by comadrejaloquita14 on Jan 28, 2011 14:20:59 GMT -5
I've always fed a soup to my ferrets weekly, just in case they get sick. It's a lot easier to get them to eat a semi liquid food when they don't feel well. But if they don't know the soup is food already(ie: weekly feedings), then they won't accept it when they most need it There's your reason for feeding soups I do it daily because we've not made the switch yet. I am using it right now to get them to understand that meat is eadible  |
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