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Post by Heather on Jan 12, 2011 0:15:37 GMT -5
People will believe what they want to believe...and nothing anyone can say will matter. We can say what we like but it won't matter, we know that no ferret will eat a baby's fingers unless it's been lathered in ferretone and then they will probably only get licked clean. Those that have fed raw for awhile would also know that even though those fingers are tiny a ferret won't eat all of them, including the bone. Remember ferrets are a lazy eat. Eaten all the meat off of the bone, yes, eaten all those tasty little fingers no. This will be played by the powers that be and like the whole breed ban thing will play out in the courts. It will be no different. The ferret will probably loose and then Peta and those like them will win. ciao
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Post by bluemoose on Jan 12, 2011 0:21:31 GMT -5
Gotta love this one:
"these are not beautiful, joyful creatures. They have been documented to attack and bite people, and although extremely sad, it doesn't suprise me that something like this happened. It only probably needed a few seconds to bite through the fingers, and I'm sure that it didn't do it because it was starving....it did it because the baby probably smelled of milk or baby food, and being a predictable wild animal, it saw a quick snack. I'm not saying that ferrets are horrible, but though they look cute, they are still wild, and do not make good pets. I work in an ER and see crap like this all the time. I sure as hell wouldn't keep a ferret if I had younger kids."
But Heather is right, most of the time you can't convince people to change their minds about anything. Fortunately, there are enough ferret loves and defenders and incidents like this are rare enough that I don't think we'll see new bans on ferrets from this. Especially since there doesn't seem to be any evidence other than the words of these most likely drug addict and neglectful parents that the ferret is actually guilty of anything.
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Post by rarnold18 on Jan 12, 2011 0:37:37 GMT -5
The media and PETA are going to spin this to be how dangerous Fuzz are and all that nonsense, BUT looking at some of the Mom boards I'm a member on there are a lot of people wondering what the heck the parents were doing, and why they didn't get there fast enough, why wasn't the ferret in a cage, were they on drugs, was the baby given something to sleep (benadryl), lots of questions have been raised... about 85% of the comments and replies to this story aren't blaming the ferret but blaming the parents....
Lazy eaters??? what ever gave anyone that idea....maybe because today I've been cleaning up ground turkey bones...monsters mil gave me a 5lb bag of ground whole turkey and the little buggers have been spitting out and eating around the little bone chunks!!! grrrr!
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Post by bluemoose on Jan 12, 2011 0:43:57 GMT -5
The general belief at this time seems to be either the parents are just using the ferret to cover for something they did or that they weren't home when the ferret "attacked". They apparently were already under investigation for leaving their children unattended before.
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Post by vkp23 on Jan 12, 2011 0:46:21 GMT -5
I left this comment to the idiot who said it would have only taken seconds for a ferret to eat off 7 fingers.
"""You obviously have NO idea what you're talking about. #1 this document to attack and bite people? You mean like when you look into having a ferret for a pet they tell you to look out for nips while playing because they have thick hides? Yeah I have never had a problem with nips strong enough to hurt much less break the skin WHILE PLAYING. And to be honest, my ferrets are more gentle with playful nips than any cat I ever had. A cat will tear your arm slap up when playing. #2 A few seconds? REALLY? You gotta be kidding! OK it takes a ferret 3-10 mins to eat a new born pinky mouse at the bare min. How long do you think it would take for a ferret to damage and eat up 7 baby fingers? Probably 30 mins or more. Ferrets are picky eaters and if kibble fed especially they imprint on their food and will only eat their food. They could ONLY be capable of doing something like this if they were at the threshold of starvation. And that's a HUGE if. Not to mention, if the ferret was not raw fed it more than likely didn't have the jaw power to crush bone. EVEN a baby's bones. Domestic (yes they ARE domestic) ferrets literally have to be trained to eat a natural raw diet and this can take MONTHS to do. I ferret simply would not do it just because it got a hair up it's butt. There is a whole lot more to this than your lack of education will allow you to see."""
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Post by vkp23 on Jan 12, 2011 0:48:51 GMT -5
That was the one I responded to! Gotta love this one: "these are not beautiful, joyful creatures. They have been documented to attack and bite people, and although extremely sad, it doesn't suprise me that something like this happened. It only probably needed a few seconds to bite through the fingers, and I'm sure that it didn't do it because it was starving....it did it because the baby probably smelled of milk or baby food, and being a predictable wild animal, it saw a quick snack. I'm not saying that ferrets are horrible, but though they look cute, they are still wild, and do not make good pets. I work in an ER and see crap like this all the time. I sure as hell wouldn't keep a ferret if I had younger kids." But Heather is right, most of the time you can't convince people to change their minds about anything. Fortunately, there are enough ferret loves and defenders and incidents like this are rare enough that I don't think we'll see new bans on ferrets from this. Especially since there doesn't seem to be any evidence other than the words of these most likely drug addict and neglectful parents that the ferret is actually guilty of anything.
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Post by bluemoose on Jan 12, 2011 0:52:55 GMT -5
Me too Even though it won't change that person's mind at least it'll provide some actual facts to anyone who reads that ignorant piece of fiction.
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Post by rarnold18 on Jan 12, 2011 1:20:40 GMT -5
I pray for the baby and I pray for the ferret... it will be intresting to see how everything devlopes in the next few days... I'm willing to bet that the parents were either under the influence of something or not even at the house...
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Post by katt on Jan 12, 2011 7:12:37 GMT -5
Anyone read the report at the bottom of the yawing ferret article? blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/ferret%20incident%20report.jpgThey said they saw the ferret sitting by the vicim and the victim covered in blood. Sounds to me like IF the ferret was even there it was wrong place wrong time for that poor little guy. It says Nothing about blood in the ferret and even if it did well if it was BY the baby I'm sure it would get blood on it by walking by. I mean think of how badly 7 missing fingers would bleed. They SHOULD do a necropsy of the fert - if they can find fingers fast enough they MIGHT be able to save a few pieces at least, stubs or more. If they are not in the ferret (I doubt they are!) then It proves the parents are lying, ferret is innocent, AND the fingers have to be somewhere. Sadly if they don't take him out of the home the boy will probably grow to hate and fear ferrets and not be happy farmers
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Post by taratee on Jan 12, 2011 8:25:12 GMT -5
even that was the mother SAYING the ferret was covered in blood, id like to see a police report of the scene to see if there was a ferret covered in blood at all
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Post by vkp23 on Jan 12, 2011 8:27:33 GMT -5
You know the statements that it would only take seconds for a ferret to chew through a baby's fingers are what really bothers me the most. Like I said in one comment I posted on that article (which if you wanna read my 20 million comments, mine are under user Virginia Parham with the pic that says "Cure PCOS") Do people REALLY think ferrets move in a blurred little cyclone like in cartoons??
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Post by taratee on Jan 12, 2011 8:32:36 GMT -5
my ferrets move in blurred cyclones dont yours? the problem is they need a scape goat for now, and until someone can prove it was the parents at fault, which i feel like even if it was the ferret that the parents should have intervened and been parents even if they WERE both asleep
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Post by vkp23 on Jan 12, 2011 8:37:37 GMT -5
my ferrets move in blurred cyclones dont yours? the problem is they need a scape goat for now, and until someone can prove it was the parents at fault, which i feel like even if it was the ferret that the parents should have intervened and been parents even if they WERE both asleep Little cyclones? Yes! Blurred ones? Not so much!
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Post by jacksmomma on Jan 12, 2011 8:44:34 GMT -5
I just don't believe it. I can't see a ferret eating 7 fingers off a baby. I know ferrets can bite hard, but hard enough to break the bone in a hand 7 times. I would think he would have to be chewing on the kid for hours. Anyway I just don't buy it. The truth will come out, and karma will get those stupid parents. My thoughts exactly Sherik. Unlike an attack from a dog (who could fit a whole hand in its mouth) a ferret would have to work on each finger individually. I have no doubt that it could happen, ferrets are great predators, but I honestly thought the first time I heard about this that the parents f*ed up (probably not the first time bc they sound like trash) and used the poor ferret as a scapegoat. This story makes me sick on so many levels but really it all comes back down to horrible parenting. I'm quite certain we will find out shortly that these "parents" abuse drugs and that child services has been out there before.
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Post by vkp23 on Jan 12, 2011 9:22:49 GMT -5
You know, after thinking about it more.... Any of you out there with kids, remember when they were babies, how they would hold their hands? The thumb is usually poking from the out side of a balled fist on a baby. ESPECIALLY a baby screaming and crying in pain. Hmmmm seems to me if a ferret was going for digits it wouldn't be trying to pick off the more difficult to get to balled up fingers, it would be going for the easy to get to thumb. And the thumbs were the only fingers left alone? Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I personally think the parents did something to the baby. Like crushed his hand with the heel of a shoe or something. Maybe I AM too tired and thinking to much!
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