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Post by mjohn143 on Jan 4, 2011 13:49:09 GMT -5
Keep this updated with what you hear. Idk if it is common in my area or not, but I am worried ab it. I just don't know how I feel about vaccinating anymore either bc MegaWeasel and Badger have small little lumps about the size of a pea at their injection sites... it really scares me even though the vet says it is scar tissue.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jan 4, 2011 14:09:18 GMT -5
discontinued? which manufacturer? my vet ordered new vaccines a few weeks ago and he received them in the mail. i already had my ferret vaccinated with the new vaccines that he ordered. i know for sure that the vaccines he ordered are brand new because i had to reschedule my ferret's visit after the vet called me to tell me that the merial purevax distemper vaccines that he had were expired and that he had to order new ones. i am in the states and the site is different for merial in the u.s. why would the canadian merial site still have the purevax for ferrets if the company is no longer selling it? ca.merial.com/cats/purevax-ferret-distemper.asp
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Post by Heather on Jan 4, 2011 15:00:08 GMT -5
According to what I've read they are going to use a combination shot to replace it. I didn't bother to save nor would I have the authority to release that information that was discussed on another list. I released only that one piece because we were given the authority by the writer to tell others. Breeders give their own vaccines and buy directly thus having contact with the distributors and manufacterers of the products. According to what I've read, they will have enough vaccine to deal with ferrets until Feb or March when the last run will be past date. After that vets will continue to give a distemper vaccine but the results are clinically untested on ferrets. There are a number of canine distemper vaccines on the market, any of those can and will be used on ferrets. Unfortunately, galaxy-d was the only one that was actually tested for ferret use (or so I've been led to believe). As far as Canada still having product....only because we don't have the number of ferrets that are available in the US is the only reason that I can think of. I'm guessing from the conversation that I was following, many people won't even be aware of the change, except maybe an increase in allergic reactions to the vaccine. I don't know, maybe there will be no change at all. Use the knowledge as you will. ciao
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jan 4, 2011 15:22:27 GMT -5
wow. i'm going to have my vet look into this. this really sucks. and no way am i going to have him use a dog distemper vaccine for my ferrets. what about the rabies vaccines? are those also being discontinued? you can't use the same ones for dogs on ferrets. i think ferret rabies vacs have to be modified live and the dog vaccine isn't.
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Post by Jackie on Jan 4, 2011 15:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jan 4, 2011 15:53:52 GMT -5
i just got off the phone with someone from the veterinary support office at Merial (who manufactures the purevax ferret distemper vaccine in the united states). if any of you want to call and see if you8 get the same story that i did, the phone number is 1-888-MERIAL1 (637-4251) (Option 3). I was told that they have not stopped making the ferret purevax vaccine and they have not announced any intention to stop manufacturing it or to use a combination dog vaccine for ferrets. BUT, i will be sure to have my ferret's vet look into this!!
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Post by Heather on Jan 4, 2011 16:55:44 GMT -5
You do realize that we're talking about 2 different manufacturers here . I'm talking about galaxy-d....the manufacturer is Schering. One vaccine is preferred over the other and truthfully I don't know which it is. One of them has less chance of a reaction....I would like to say that it's the galaxy-d, because the breeders are moaning about it's loss but?? ciao
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jan 4, 2011 20:25:55 GMT -5
Ohhhh. Duh. Stupid American here. Lol. Actually, my vet said he had a lot more reactions with the galaxy d and another ferret distemper vac. Can't ever remember the name if it. The breeders are probably moaning and crying because I'm pretty sure the galaxy d vac is the least expensive of them. I guess for breeders those vaccinations can add up.
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Post by Jackie on Jan 5, 2011 7:07:12 GMT -5
Hi Jaclynn
Thank you for your query. You are to be commended for researching the use of natural alternatives.
Our Vi-Pro Plus combines a Distemperinum nosode in homeopathic dose with homeopathic Bryonia and an herbal preparation of Echinacea, providing powerful protection against Distemper as well as many other viral illnesses. It provides powerful support for the immune system and supports health and integrity within the respiratory and digestive systems.
This remedy can be used preventatively to immunize your pet, or curatively under the treatment of a homeopathic vet.
For your ferret we recommend a dose of one pinch following dosage directions on our website. It is important that your vet be instrumental in monitoring your ferret during this time.
The granules of this remedy are sucrose and act as a carrier for the homeopathic ingredients. The sucrose used is minimal.
For further info, please go to: Vi-Pro Plus
Please let us know if there is anything else we can assist you with.
Warm regards,
The Native Remedies Team
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jan 5, 2011 8:23:10 GMT -5
Hmmm. Sounds very interesting! How often do you have to give it?
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Post by Jackie on Jan 5, 2011 8:37:30 GMT -5
Preventative: Administer 3 times daily for 5 days. May be repeated at 3 – 6 month intervals or following exposure to potential threats.
Dosage: Puppies and small to medium dogs: 2 pinches sprinkled into the mouth. Medium to large dogs: 1/4 cap of granules sprinkled into the mouth.
Note: Safe for animals of all ages, pregnant animals or animals that are nursing. Vi-Pro Plus can safely be used along with prescription medications. No adverse interactions have been noted between the ingredients in Vi-Pro Plus and prescription medications. However, as with any medicine, it is always advisable to consult your vet.
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Post by Jackie on Jan 5, 2011 8:37:56 GMT -5
That's just what the website information states.
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Post by Heather on Jan 5, 2011 17:10:27 GMT -5
Thank you for researching this Jackie, this is fantastic information for those who are interested in following a homeopathic route, instead of using a distemper vaccine. ciao
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Post by Jackie on Jan 5, 2011 17:19:54 GMT -5
I'm hoping to consult with the two holistic vets tomorrow. For some reason, both are closed on Wednesday (today) I'm super excited about it. I have my fingers crossed!
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Post by mustelidmusk on Jan 9, 2011 21:18:32 GMT -5
I think some clarification is required here....
HOMEOPATHIC "VACCINATIONS" ---------------------------------------- 3kaw is correct. Administration of nododes does not produce immunity. This approach is not a vacciination
* NOSODES: KEY POINT to understand - Treatment with nosodes is not a vaccination that will stimulate immunity and elevate titer levels. It's a homeopathic remedy that may moderate or reduce the severity of an illness should the animal become infected. Nosodes work best when given a week or so before exposure and repeated a week or so after exposure. There is nothing new about nosodes, they were used primarily before the development of vaccines during epidemics. From what I have heard, the efficacy of nosodes varies for different diseases and the nosode source that is used.
VACCINATION INFO: -------------------------- 1. If your ferret has already had the baby series, you ferrets may be sufficiently protected. Check titers instead of automatically vaccinating. 2. Based upon my experience with distemper vaccinations, I found the baby series produced marginal coverage, but the addition of the 1 year booster (I gave baby series and the only ONE annual booster thereafter) will most likely provide my brats with enough coverage for the rest of their lives. ALL ferrets are different.
Go to the AFA web site and look for the Mongo distemper fund information. It has been years since I've one this, but you could get a titer test done for only 10.00 if you get them tested through the study.
If you are going to vaccinate, I recommend following the following protocol.... baby series, followed by 1- year booster. Check titers or give annual booster every third year thereafter.
Again, my brat's' titers were so high after the a first-year booster that have not even checked them since.
I STRONGLY recommend that you NEVER fail to complete the series of the 3 baby distemper shots. This will leave your ferret at GREAT RISK. The reason for this is very complicated. All I will say is that the reason for the series of 3 shots involves development of the baby's immune system. Also, the shots can cancel the mom's natural transferred immunity, and/or the shots can cancel each other. By the third shot, most babies will have acquired a reasonable level of protection for at least the first year - maybe more. Not continuing with the baby series can be worse than no vaccinations at all.
-jennifer
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