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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 15, 2010 9:26:48 GMT -5
Yeah, it's about 10lbs worth of hearts , so the freeze dried is a good compromise. Beef heart is something else to look for. Sometimes it's easier to find than chicken/turkey hearts, and is much more dense. 1sq" is approx 1oz., so they don't eat very much of that one. I don't feed that one any more because one is super sensitive to beef heart/organs, and another loves it TOO much! He'll eat it so fast, and in such large chunks, that it comes right back up again
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Post by halblingefrau on Aug 15, 2010 13:48:12 GMT -5
He'll eat it so fast, and in such large chunks, that it comes right back up again Such lovely little critters, eh?
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 15, 2010 22:41:48 GMT -5
Hey- I've also got one who'll do that with smelts, and another who, if he gets hold of a shrimp, will run around like a maniac with it in his mouth, huffing like mad, because he can't figure out where he can hide it so no one else can get it, and then finally basically swallow it
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Post by halblingefrau on Aug 16, 2010 12:06:20 GMT -5
We had our soupies last night, but Juno still is showing little interest. I'm going to try to liquify some and use a syringe. I tried using the same method I did with the boys (smearing some on her gums to get her to taste it) but she is still not having it. I have had good luck with syringe feeding her in the past. If that method STILL doesn't work, I might blend in some of their kibble into her portion of soupie.
Also, after play time last night the kids were put back in their cage and the kibble was put back out. Loki ate so fast he horked it back up... right after I had cleaned. Little turd.
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 16, 2010 13:17:00 GMT -5
For right now, it's a good idea to put the kibble back in overnight- just to make sure they are all eating something. If you like, you can also put in a small dish of soup for those who'd prefer to have that. For Juno, if I remember correctly, she took the original soup well? Maybe just make some more of that up, and very slowly add pureed raw to it. If she won't take the straight raw soup, you might have to trick her into it.
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Post by halblingefrau on Aug 16, 2010 16:33:32 GMT -5
Yeah Juno LOVED the soup made from kibble and a/d food. Everyone loved it actually. I might try mixing a little of that in with the boys' soupies to feed Juno if making a liquid-y raw chicken "milkshake" doesn't work.
One a side note, the dogs had their first meal of raw chicken (hubs was mad I used the chicken breast he was thawing for dinner. Oops!). At first they didn't know what to think and then the gobbled it up. I think I'm in trouble. I hope I win the lottery soon.
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 16, 2010 17:36:39 GMT -5
I think it might just be time to start checking out ethnic markets, and the farmer's markets They'll frequently have the odder meats on for less than you'd pay for anything in the grocery store! And tell hubby the puppies needed those more than he did! He already eats a species appropriate diet
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Post by halblingefrau on Aug 16, 2010 23:11:23 GMT -5
My husband's man-species appropriate diet: Mountain Dew, fish sticks, chicken nuggets, and Frosted Flakes. I'm off to put out soupies and feed Juno. I'll let ya know how it goes in the morning.
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Post by halblingefrau on Aug 17, 2010 11:18:50 GMT -5
Once again, June didn't take to the soupie, even when I syringe fed it. Looks like I'm going to have to make her some "junk food": the kibble and a/d soupie. Going to mix it in with a little raw and offer it to her. The boys, however, gobble up the raw soupie like there's no tomorrow. Should I mix the junk food in with the main batch of raw soupie (for Juno's sake) or should I feed her separately until she's eating with the boys?
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 17, 2010 18:16:44 GMT -5
I'd feed her separately. You don't want the boys backsliding if you can avoid it. Make her the soupies she'll actually eat, and just mix in enough of the raw to make her go "Is that different?...Nah!" Slowly increase by maybe a 1/4 tsp every couple of days with her. She's going to be just like my Boris, I can tell
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Post by halblingefrau on Aug 18, 2010 23:33:45 GMT -5
Well turns out I didn't have the a/d to make the junk food for Juno. I'll have to pick some up this weekend. On a happy note, my raw order came in so Juno is currently omnoming the feline lamb ziwipeak. Asher went NUTS for the bag of duck crunchies that I got to share between ferts and dogs. He's eating that. Loki isn't wild about either, and seems like he'd rather eat kibble. I might have to go backwards with him too. Ash is totally happy on an all raw diet though, so woo hoo. He was harder to switch than Loki was in the beginning.
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 19, 2010 10:58:18 GMT -5
Sometimes taking a step back is necessary, and helps in the long run. So don't be too concerned- they'll get there If I give Boris a "new" meat(aka haven't served it in over a month), I basically have to start over again with him on that meat
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Post by halblingefrau on Aug 21, 2010 18:40:46 GMT -5
Since I'm using ground chicken right now to make my soupie, I know it doesn't has as much fat as using chicken meat with skin. Can I add olive oil to increase the fat content?
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 22, 2010 0:22:48 GMT -5
What would actually work better is pure lard, if you have it. Olive oil is a vegetable base, and they really don't get a lot from it. Not what they would from an animal base product, anyway.
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Post by halblingefrau on Aug 22, 2010 2:12:03 GMT -5
I can get some lard. They sell it in freaking BUCKETS at our local store haha. But they also sell it in small butter sized sticks too.
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