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Post by miamiferret2 on Nov 29, 2010 22:23:58 GMT -5
sorry i didn't read carefully. i thought that they didn't want to pay for it. i would definitely do it. especially if they have no signs of adrenal. why wait until they are sick. watching a ferret deteriorate with adrenal is no cakewalk. my "talk to the hand" attitude usually works with my husband who thinks that i spend too much money on my animals.
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Post by bluemoose on Nov 29, 2010 22:56:17 GMT -5
Yeah they're all less than a year old so the deslorelin should work well for them. Still looking for a vet who isn't 7 hours away but has deslorelin. You'd think in a densely populated area of the state with the most ferrets it'd be easier to find a competent vet
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Post by jacksmomma on Nov 30, 2010 8:15:13 GMT -5
Maybe you can find a vet that you are comfortable with and you can learn together? My vet had never dealt with cysteine stones in ferrets, but she called colleagues and experts and did her research. Until a vet comes across something, they know as little as you do about it; it's impossible to cover everything in school. The difference between a good vet and a bad vet (or any doctor), is their willingness to learn by researching, experimenting and going to seminars and building contacts with others. And at this point, the Des implant as a preventative is still experimental so find a vet willing to experiment with your money (obviously experimenting with many things isn't good, but the des implant seems to be one that is safe to experiment with).
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Post by WTFerret on Nov 30, 2010 12:10:40 GMT -5
The only vet in California that I know who is doing the DES implants is Gandolfi and he's in Castro valley he charges 175 plus 55 office visit if your a member of the 3000 club you get 30$ off. Btw what part of ca are you from ? There is a club meeting in concord tonight if your interested I drive in from Lodi and Nikki drives all the way from Davis so we are from all over the place. You should come if you can so you can get the secret Christmas party location all the nor cal clubs meet up and bring their fuzzy friends.
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Post by bluemoose on Nov 30, 2010 17:30:16 GMT -5
Yeah Gandolfi is the one who's 7 hours away. I live in San Bernardino County so the drive is a little far.
My bf's house mates refuse to let the ferrets stay at their house for a week while I go to WA state to visit family for Christmas (they don't want "dangerous rodents" near their children) and I don't have anyone else to care for them so they might be making the drive with me. In which case I could stop by Gandolfi's office. Of course that doesn't solve my problem of finding a regular vet but at least it would get me Deslorelin implants for a year.
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Post by keawearascal on Jan 23, 2011 18:21:42 GMT -5
ai yai yai...I just have to chime in here. I LOVE my mom, really I do. But if it were up to her my ferret would be eating Kaytee, the cats would be eating Walmart Special Kitty, and the puppy would be eating Purina. Can I get a big HELL NO? I have to pay for it all myself, but I do grain free and organic as much as possible for all critters. The puppy eats By Nature Organics grain-free canned food exclusively, the cats get Wysong Uretic and by nature organics canned, or a variety of other premium grain-free foods in a pinch, and Keawea gets Zupreem Grain-free (I dont trust Proctor and Gamble to run EVO) and canned cat food as well. Our parents were just raised in another mindset mostof the time. They were usually raised that "pets are pets and they're lucky to get kibble and tapwater" Oh, and btw, MY old vet reccomended I euthanize my 5 year old otherwise healthy adrenal ferret Rascal on diagnosis. Should have probably been my clue to find a different vet to do the surgery, but he did live for a couple more years anyways. The prick also refused to advise me what to do when I took him back for infection. I was a terrified 17 year old! I finally took him home and I'm glad I did becuase I doubt he would have lived if he had been readmitted
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Post by bluemoose on Jan 23, 2011 18:50:37 GMT -5
Yeah mine are the same way about pets. They die when they die and there's no point in spending extra time and money to make them live longer. There's always more where they came from. Kibble keeps them alive so why not get the cheapest one?
My mother's family's cats were all indoor/outdoor and un-neutered. Their cats were always getting pregnant and any kittens they couldn't give away, my grandfather killed. That's just the way it was back then where she lived. I mean I guess it's better than leaving them to be homeless and keep repopulating forever but it seems pretty horrible by today's standards.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jan 23, 2011 20:04:03 GMT -5
btw, i asked my vet (a very nice and honest person) and he said that he pays $90 for each suprelorin (deslorelin) implant that he orders from pep tech in australia. but of course i'm sure they will mark it up. our vet is a saint and he barely marks anything up. but that is just to give you an idea of what it really costs them. i'm sure they'll jack up the price especially since they have to go through the hassle of ordering it from another country etc.
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Post by sherik on Jan 23, 2011 21:37:22 GMT -5
This is awesome. My vet is trying to get the implants as a preventitive for my babies and for the one who already has the disease. I am hoping I hear from her next week or so. I love my vet in that she trusts that I probably know more about ferrets than her. We are going to try and get them an implant every year.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jan 23, 2011 22:17:36 GMT -5
i already had my 6 month old implanted. fingers crossed. i hope it works. the adrenal vaccine is still in the early stages. i was trying to find out more about that but i won't use him as a guinea pig. one of the vets i asked about des, he writes for ferrets magazine. jerry murray. he has a column on there. he said des should prevent adrenal tumors if implanted early. he also owns ferrets.
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Post by Jackie on Jan 23, 2011 22:27:22 GMT -5
How does it work when you need to get the next implant? Do they remove the previous one?
I might have to look into it, but I get scared that there could be a nasty side effect that no one knows about. I'm paranoid...
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Post by candiceboggs on Jan 24, 2011 4:32:23 GMT -5
I'm looking into it as well. Where in CA do you live, bluemoose?
This is probably more effort than you'd be interested in but at least for the deslorelin you could drive up to Beaverton, OR and see my exotics/fuzzy vet. She is exceptional and is an internationally recognized ferret expert in the ferret community. Her name is Dr. Katrina Ramsell.
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Post by bluemoose on Jan 24, 2011 4:41:37 GMT -5
I live in So Cal. The nearest vet I've found who will do it is Gandolfi and he's 7 hours away. Still closer than OR but since my parents won't help me out with the money, I don't think I can afford it either way.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jan 24, 2011 9:17:32 GMT -5
No you don't remove the last one. You just reimplant. It is small like a grain of rice. Des works in the same way as lupron. In Europe they have been using des for a while. They apparently don't have lupron for animals in europe. most vets say des is better and lasts longer. I have used des before on my 8 year old that had adrenal disease. I saw no side effects. My vet has 4 other clients that are also using lupron for their ferrets and they are doing extremely well. See mustelidaemusk's (Jennifer's) post on des. She seems to be seeing great results and maybe even some evidence that des may actually HEAL adrenal lesions.
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