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Post by 3kaw on Nov 18, 2010 10:09:30 GMT -5
Trixie eats fine, and would likely eat more if offered, but we've been told to limit it cause it will only increase the blood sugar. sigh what i have been doing though is putting a 1/4 tsp of baby chicken food and mixed with 1/2 cup water, she loves this and it's the only way to get water into her.
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Post by 3kaw on Nov 19, 2010 4:48:00 GMT -5
Nothing new. they've had no issues with the new amounts of raw to soup. Going to increase the raw again, likely tomorrow.
Sadie is really pigging out LOL for a little girl who weighs only 1.5 lbs she has been eating all of hers then finishing zeke's. LOL I have put more out a few times mostly so zeke can have something to pick at later as seems to be his thing.
Have a good day!
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Post by luci on Nov 20, 2010 1:28:53 GMT -5
Woo! That sounds great! I love it when they really start to enjoy their food.
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Post by 3kaw on Nov 20, 2010 14:13:46 GMT -5
I have located a whole bunch of goodies. Only one i`m not sure if they can eat, but dogs will gladly take care of it if they can`t. I got beef heart beef kidney lamb spleen pork kidney salmon chunks with skin now the next three are grounded with bone so was unclear if that would be safe for them. I know they can eat bone on their own, my concern is this is already ground and if they ate something too small. your thoughts? ground duck, chicken and turkey neck. So if there is anything there they can't eat I'll just add to what i got for the dogs.
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Post by luci on Nov 20, 2010 16:03:19 GMT -5
The ground stuff should be okay. Maybe supervise the first couple of offerings and see how they deal with it.
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Post by 3kaw on Nov 21, 2010 11:45:52 GMT -5
Ok here's what I've come up with for meals. i have two options a day one for each meal. each meal I'm offering 2 ozs of meat/soup mix.
Mon = ground chicken w bone/liver Tues = turkey neck/ pork Wed=ground duck w bone/ Thurs = beef heart / chicken w bone Fri= goat with bone meal/ liver Sat=salmon/ spleen Sun=kidney/ beef heart
any changes you can see?
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Post by 3kaw on Nov 21, 2010 11:50:02 GMT -5
i should say as well that the soup is mostly dark meat, is that going to be enough dark meat? (taurine)
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Post by luci on Nov 22, 2010 0:00:34 GMT -5
Are you offering 2oz per ferret per meal? Or 2oz per meal for all ferrets?
Wed.: Is there a second meal?
I'm not sure I would offer salmon as a full meal. Maybe as part of one. My ferrets do not dig fish in any way shape or form, but maybe yours will be different.
Sunday will be some dark, splarty poops. You may want to consider swapping one of those with something from Tuesday.
I think you're doing fine with the dark meats. Heart twice a week should be plenty of taurine, plus all meats contain taurine anyway, so you're in good shape.
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Post by 3kaw on Nov 22, 2010 7:53:02 GMT -5
Mon = ground chicken w bone/liver Tues = turkey neck/ kidney Wed=ground duck w bone/lamb Thurs = beef heart / chicken w bone Fri= goat with bone meal/ liver Sat=ground chicken with salmon/ spleen Sun=kidney/ pork okay mixed it up a bit. The two ozs is per ferret. Sadie will eat all of hers then pick at whatever Zeke doesn't finish in the morning. THe evening they dont finish all of it. Zeke will usually go back to itafter playing a bit. No one seems to eat much at night. Well trixie gets a bit less per feeding but she eats every few hours still so shes getting 6/8 plus oz a day. The ground duck was a hard sell. though they've had duck before they didn't like this one. I hand feed them most of it and they ate a bit more then half that way. I'm surprised at how gentle they are even with grabbing chunks off my hand the 'grip' they have is so gentle, kind of wonder how they wil ever eat through a chicken wing
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Post by luci on Nov 22, 2010 23:30:14 GMT -5
My girls didn't take to duck right away either. The bones are really different since they're waterfowl, I don't know if that was the main stumbling block or if it was the meat itself. They learned to like it though.
Isn't it sweet how gently they take food from your hand? They hold it so gingerly, like they're afraid it will break. But not to worry, they can definitely get through a chicken wing tip. My girls really like quail for their bones. If ever Fierra isn't acting hungry I just offer her a quail wing tip and she happily runs off and crunches it up like it's a special treat. That usually jumpstarts her appetite.
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Post by 3kaw on Nov 23, 2010 14:42:07 GMT -5
Nothing new, everyone eating well.
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Post by luci on Nov 23, 2010 23:30:16 GMT -5
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Post by 3kaw on Nov 24, 2010 13:53:21 GMT -5
Doing well, even got Trixie to eat a few 'chunks' of meat from my hand. Usually the ones in her bowl she just eats around. lol but i picked some chunks dipped it in soup and she licked them right up with out even noticing. I am hesitant to add more chunks to her bowl cause it's still fairly watered down. But i think i will start her with a few chunks at each meal just to get some into her. okay thinking about if /how i should make next step.... oh ya and what that would be! lol Because i have a freezer full of minced meats i don't wan to go up in chunk size yet. So I guess it would be to again lessen the amount of soup in the mix? They still seem to go for the soup covered pieces first so I'm wondering if it's too soon? I do leave some raw in the cage when I'm at work and some times they eat it sometimes not. Is it to soon to move forward? As well they seem fine with the variation of meats they are on, just wondering if the consistent change in meat will make it longer before they eat chunks or does that effect anything? Well tonight they will all be getting a LARGE dose of pumpkin.... my fault really.... last night i was cleaning out the cage litter, and it only had a few poops in it (they had been out of cage all day yesterday) so I left the bag and scoop beside the cage. When i go home from work the top of the bag had been pulled into the cage. It looks like the holes in the bag are just claw marks but just Incas! It's like living with two year old triplets!
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Post by 3kaw on Nov 24, 2010 21:23:46 GMT -5
Noticing that zeke and sadies poops are smaller amounts and dark. Didn't just start to day. lol
The poop is still formed and pasty looking just really small amounts. Normal?
Trixie's are small as well but much lighter brown and a little looser but still a decent form to them.
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Post by luci on Nov 25, 2010 1:21:50 GMT -5
Moving to the next step: You could try offering less soup with their chunks and then if all they do is stash them or act like they don't know what it is just add more soup. It's great that they seem to not be awfully picky about the meat you're offering. I still have to coax Katrinka into eating beef and heart even though once she starts she remembers that she does actually like it. Raw fed poops are indeed smaller and wetter than kibble poops. The color will vary based on what they've eaten. Heart, organs, red meats will make them very dark. Chicken, rabbit will make them more tan. Every day a new surprise!
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