Zoshi
Cageless and Roamin' Free
Raw Feeder[/color]
Actually, he's a cave bear <3
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Post by Zoshi on Oct 12, 2010 22:06:33 GMT -5
Got my order today, very impressed with the packaging. They did an awesome job, of course it got here in just around 24 hours, but the dry ice was still there, and all the mice were totally frozen. What I liked was that it's apparent the mice aren't frozen in bag, they're all separate in the bags. I don't know if everyone does it like that, but I was happy to see that. x3 If you feel like it you can see pics of everything, from opening to freezer, here: s628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/zoshi/Ferrets/Meeces/And this is for Sherrylynne: Here are the hairless mice! Once we get to them, I'll have a thawed pic to show you too. x3  |
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Post by sherrylynne on Oct 13, 2010 9:24:59 GMT -5
Weird! Where are they from? I tried googling it, and came up with zip!
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Zoshi
Cageless and Roamin' Free
Raw Feeder[/color]
Actually, he's a cave bear <3
Posts: 203
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Post by Zoshi on Oct 13, 2010 17:47:16 GMT -5
Apparently, they're a genetic mutation that was originally bred in the early 1900's in laboratories. Nowadays people breed them both for testing and for the pet trade (since some people just like their mice in the nude xD) and for feeders too. They're fuzzy up until around two weeks of age, when they begin losing their fuzzy fur and become totally nude. They wouldn't survive long in the wild, because they have no fur, but also they don't have any whiskers! They're nudie genes make their whiskers fall out as well. That's what I managed to dig up from a few sites, but there's a site here with some cool info about hairless mice, rats, guinea pigs, and hamsters! : www.angelfire.com/realm2/lex_exotics/Ahairlessrodents.htmlI don't know how up-to-date their info is, but it makes an interesting read nonetheless. :3 Oh, and the hairless mice are entirely like regular mice, except their diet needs to be higher in proteins and other things. They're nutritionally complete as feeder animals, too, so no worries there. :3 |
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Post by kainslie on Nov 2, 2010 9:15:35 GMT -5
Oh wow, those are great prices!!
Where I am, I just spent 0.85 per large mouse! d**n! I wish I could get that deal =[
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Post by fertsru on Nov 2, 2010 19:53:10 GMT -5
I tried both micedirect and rodentpro for chicks and mice. Seems like their shipping and prices are identical. Unfortunately, rodentpro doesn't have any sales this month.  I have two bags of chicks, hopefully it'll last till December. |
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Post by bluemoose on Nov 2, 2010 19:58:18 GMT -5
I don't think rodentpro does their sales anymore. I could be wrong on that but I recall reading on their site that they have "All new even lower everyday prices!" now instead.
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Post by fertsru on Nov 2, 2010 20:08:23 GMT -5
I don't think rodentpro does their sales anymore. I could be wrong on that but I recall reading on their site that they have "All new even lower everyday prices!" now instead. Really?  Their sales were awesome: qual for 20c, mice for 12c. It's a shame. |
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Post by horse656 on Nov 3, 2010 17:19:39 GMT -5
where did you order from? the micedirect.com/?do they ship to canada? im trying to find somewhere that ships to canada!!! |
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Post by katt on Nov 13, 2010 20:45:40 GMT -5
Apparently, they're a genetic mutation that was originally bred in the early 1900's in laboratories. Nowadays people breed them both for testing and for the pet trade (since some people just like their mice in the nude xD) and for feeders too. They're fuzzy up until around two weeks of age, when they begin losing their fuzzy fur and become totally nude. They wouldn't survive long in the wild, because they have no fur, but also they don't have any whiskers! They're nudie genes make their whiskers fall out as well. That's what I managed to dig up from a few sites, but there's a site here with some cool info about hairless mice, rats, guinea pigs, and hamsters! : www.angelfire.com/realm2/lex_exotics/Ahairlessrodents.htmlI don't know how up-to-date their info is, but it makes an interesting read nonetheless. :3 Oh, and the hairless mice are entirely like regular mice, except their diet needs to be higher in proteins and other things. They're nutritionally complete as feeder animals, too, so no worries there. :3 Interesting. Very strange. And creepy. As for your last statement though I partially disagree. Fiber is pretty important and one of the great benefits of whole prey. No hair=very little fiber. I know some brats (*ahem* Koda! haha and others) do better with some fiber in their diet. Otherwise though, I am sure they are balanced. I just wanted to add in the fiber part.  |
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Post by Lynxie on Nov 16, 2010 18:45:30 GMT -5
Apparently, they're a genetic mutation that was originally bred in the early 1900's in laboratories. Nowadays people breed them both for testing and for the pet trade (since some people just like their mice in the nude xD) and for feeders too. They're fuzzy up until around two weeks of age, when they begin losing their fuzzy fur and become totally nude. They wouldn't survive long in the wild, because they have no fur, but also they don't have any whiskers! They're nudie genes make their whiskers fall out as well. That's what I managed to dig up from a few sites, but there's a site here with some cool info about hairless mice, rats, guinea pigs, and hamsters! : www.angelfire.com/realm2/lex_exotics/Ahairlessrodents.htmlI don't know how up-to-date their info is, but it makes an interesting read nonetheless. :3 Oh, and the hairless mice are entirely like regular mice, except their diet needs to be higher in proteins and other things. They're nutritionally complete as feeder animals, too, so no worries there. :3 My friend loves hairless rats. I don't know if it's the same in mice, but in rats, the genetic mutation is called "double rex". Rex rats have slightly thinner, curlier hair, and curly whiskers. If you breed two rexes together, you get a "double rex", which are fuzzy until about two weeks old, and then they lose their hair everywhere except their nose and face. Sometimes they'll grow other patches of fur, but they'll eventually lose them again. Now, if you breed a double rex to a regular rat, you'll get some rexes, and if you breed a rex to a double rex, you'll get some rexes and double rexes. Double rex rats have a lot of issues with breeding though. Rex rats  Double rex rats  |
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Post by josiesmom on Nov 17, 2010 3:40:01 GMT -5
regarding feeding hairless rodents: Something to keep in mind when feeding whole prey - there ARE parts of the prey that are NOT, completely digestible - things like sharp teeth, claws and the shards of bones chewed up from larger joints like hip sockets and femurs, sometimes entire tibias and larger vertbrae. When these UNDIGESTIBLE parts get pushed through the digestive tract eaten with a FURRED rodent the fur gets wrapped around these sharp shards and the pointy pieces become enveloped in soft fur and expelled in a neat rope like deposit!
If you feed hairless rodents - the digestive tract doesn't receive the protective benefit of the fur envelope and there is a risk of the sharp shards hurting the digestive tract. You may end up with a ferret eating whole prey and developing similar problems as an IBD ferret eating Kibble!
If feeding a hairless prey item, I'd suggest following the prey with a bit of fibrous pumpkin for dessert. There may be enough fibers in the pumpkin to wrap up the sharp shards of teeth,claws and bone.
Cheers,
Kim
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Post by katt on Dec 2, 2010 19:43:59 GMT -5
josiesmom: I agree and disagree. While you are correct about the whole fur thing, eating the hairless rodents should not cause an issue. It would be no different than feeding raw eggs (with the shell), poultry bones, etc. When you feed raw chicken wings and such, they get the bone shards and whatnot but no fur. They have very acidic stomachs, as long as the bones and bits are uncooked, any sharp edges will be rounded by toe corrosive effect just like with raw chicken bones. That said, I do agree that having the extra fiber provided by the fur is definitely better, and a little added pumpkin is always a good thing for a fiber source. |
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