Post by sherrylynne on Jan 25, 2010 18:26:49 GMT -5
What I do when I make soup(or mush) for them is put it in ice-cube trays and freeze it, then empty the trays in baggies. When I give it, if they are just starting out, I only thaw a cube at a time. If they eat all that and look for more, I thaw more cubes! That way- less waste If they don't eat it all, you can put it in the cage with them for several hours.
Post by babycakes0707 on Jan 28, 2010 8:15:30 GMT -5
alright ill try that, but its going to have to wait til next week because right now most everything is packed so i dont have baggies nor ice trays out..i dont have anything really besides a freezer and the meat lol.
Post by sherrylynne on Feb 2, 2010 12:56:12 GMT -5
Congrats on the move! We might as well go full bore, as it were, now that you're finally settled. Since you've got your blender unpacked now, puree up some chicken(breast or thigh) boneless, about 8 ounces, a couple hearts, a liver, about a tsp eggshell powdered. Add enough water to make it soupy. Freeze in ice cube trays, baggie them, and use one cube per serving for now See if they'll take it themselves. If they don't(and your older one is unlikely to), scruff them, and dab some on their noses so they have to lick it off. Do this repeatedly for a few days til they take it off your finger. I'd also leave the kibble out of the cage at night, so they have an appetite in the morning. Up to about 12 hours won't hurt a healthy fuzz at all.
Post by babycakes0707 on Feb 3, 2010 8:12:31 GMT -5
alright well i tried the 1st idea yesterday (the chicken and babyfood mix thing..) and molson (my oldest) gets super excited when theres raw meat lol he smells it from miles away!!! scratch is the one being a pain in the bum! he wont go NEAR IT! i tried heating up the babyfood, putting it on his nose, nothing. i tried leaving the kibbles out...still nothing. molson already eats bones and stuff, he`s already good to go! (he never put up a fight for raw meat instead of kibbles, i think he likes meat better!) ill try the new "recipe" tonight see how that goes i guess, only issue is all my meat is already frozen so if i thaw it and refreeze it, wont it go bad?
Post by sherrylynne on Feb 3, 2010 23:10:40 GMT -5
Not at all. I buy in bulk, and have to thaw and refreeze as well. Well, since Molson already goes for the raw, give it to him For Scratch, you'll have to start with soup I'm thinking. It can take a while before they'll do more than lick the soup off their noses, so be prepared! With my newest, she seemed to have been doing really well with her switch, but suddenly put the brakes on, and I've had to almost start over with her With her, I actually had to scruff and dab for several days before she'd take it from my finger. And with the spoon, picture this if you will: I've got a one pound ferret tucked under my left arm, hand/fingers under her front legs, holding her in place, and no matter how much she twists and backs up(yes- while I'm holding her ), I keep the spoon in front of her snout, and she just keeps licking it off the spoon compulsively! Her butt would be at least 6 inches higher than the rest of her body with trying to back up As you can see- some are more stubborn than others! Just keep scruffing and dabbing, and he'll get there sooner or later. You just have to outstubborn him. Try to keep in mind that if they have to taste meat often enough, they WILL develop a taste for meat!
Post by babycakes0707 on Feb 4, 2010 23:10:21 GMT -5
so apperently Scratch would rather let himself starve then to even lick the stupid soup. lol i tried to put it on his nose and he just kept on trying to find new ways to wipe it off without licking it!i tried to hold him while he had it onhis nose and still he would just kind of go psycho and the soup would end up on me and not his mouth. molson LOVESSSSS meat in any form lol he ate liek 5 of those meat cubes today alone!!! he ate a couple frozen and some i thawed out, but either way those cubes were gone within minutes lol. scratch goes near the food and he'll smell it and walk away he's just realy not interested. i took away the kibbles all yesterday and today and still nothing. i should probably give him some kibbles now huh...
Post by sherrylynne on Feb 6, 2010 19:53:17 GMT -5
Sorry- somehow I missed your response! Yes, by all means give him some kibbles. Maybe leave it in during the day, and just remove it at night. Keep trying with the soups, and can you get some Wysong's Archetypal 1 ferret? It's freeze dried raw. Just sprinkle some on his kibble, and mix it in. That way, he also has to at least taste it when he eats. Since he's being so stubborn, you might also want to get him used to different smells. Use some herbs rubbed on your hands, a bit of oil(any kind, really). The idea is to have him smell a whole range of things. Try dabbing a bit of raw egg yolk on his nose. Maybe make a game of eating. Does he like tone? If so- use that as well. Have some tone on one finger, and a bit of soup on the other. When he licks the tone, switch fingers so he "accidently" licks the soup. When he's out running, grab him up, dab it, and put him down. When you scruff him, and he yawns, quickly dab some on his tongue. Let me know how any(or all) of these things work! And don't be too discouraged. I went through the same thing with my Boris- and still do for new(or forgotten) meats
Post by babycakes0707 on Feb 6, 2010 20:50:56 GMT -5
i keep trying to put it on his nose but he always finds a way to get rid of it!!!! im gonna bath him in the stuff!! lol just kidding..i don tthink i can get that wysong's thing anywhere...all ive found is very basic crappy ferret food here. ive tried a raw egg before too but hes not intrested either....and molson seems to be starving!! i give him a lot of those meat cubes and hes always hungry! i think he's not getting enough nutrients or some thing... anyways now all i have left are beef strips since molson ate all the chicken hearts and stuff...i might have some chicken thighs left but i have to do something with molson cause like i said i think those cubes just arent enough...
Post by sherrylynne on Feb 7, 2010 12:08:26 GMT -5
Molsen's appetite for the raw has kicked in! That's great. Try giving him some bone to chew on(wing tips, etc), as well as making the chunks larger. He should be going through 4-6 oz a day right now, til his body adapts to the raw again. With Wysong's, you can order it through Casey's Hidden Pantry. The owner is a member here, and her prices are really good. You can also try some Stella and Chewey's Will Scratch take some cooked soup? That might be the route for him. Also- can't remember if you tried him with the tiny breaded meat cubes? With this boy, I think we're going to have to try a few different things.
How liquid is her soupy?? I'm thinking of doing the sick ferret thing with this little stick in the mud. You can try syringe feeding or doing the whole burito-fert and using a spoon or eye dropper. Anything to get him started. I had a little one like this, there was no way. If I stuck it on his nose, he'd wipe it off on me or the bedding anything but lick it off. What I did with him was grab him on the fly. I worked it on a weekend when I was home and basically had nothing else on the go... This was ferret switching weekend. I made up my soupy mix and let the little bums go. As he was playing I was catching him up and then put him a bit of a scruff. I used a spoon and got him to open his mouth and poured a bit in his mouth. I did this every 15 min or so. By the end of the day, he was licking some off the spoon. I had to start over the next day but it took a shorter length of time to convince him to start lapping up the liquid. It's a method... ciao
Post by babycakes0707 on Feb 7, 2010 17:28:58 GMT -5
i tried it hot before too but scratch still wont eat it...i did once try to kind of force it in his mouth when he yawned or whatever i put it on his tongue an dliek flipped out at me and scratched my arm to hell (which is why his name is scratch...he actually scratches alot!) it seems like hes mad about having to eat the meat or something! hes being so rebelious..lol. molson already eats bones no problem, he'll eat frozen or thawed meat with no issue but no matter how much i give him he always seems hungry! should i start to follow some sort of feeding schedule like i had for him before? like it said how much to give him of what on which days and such....i tried putting crumbs of kibbles on the meat before but scratch would just lick off the crubs and leave the meat..i think im going to have to seperate the boys for this because molson gladly eats all the meat while scratch ignores it...