Post by saphire2815 on Aug 17, 2009 11:48:56 GMT -5
Nothing real new to update, but everyone is the same. But I did have a funny happen this morning with the food.
Bon Bon grabbed herself a nice big piece of meat and went to run off and eat it in a hidey hole. On her way there she jumps over biscuit and meat falls onto his back. Well he keeps on truckin', and Bon Bon is left without her food. The poor thing was so confused while her food walked away she started the search for the missing food, for a good two minutes she just searched and searched for that piece of meat! I thought I was going to pee my pants with laughter! Bisuit emerged a few minutes later and the meat was gone, Did he find it and go Score! Nom Nom Nom, or did it fall off? Don't know, I didn't find any stray pieces of meat this morning so who knows. LOL
Post by sherrylynne on Aug 17, 2009 19:27:11 GMT -5
Oh, that is just way too funny . What a shame you couldn't have got a video of the look on her face If you didn't find any stash, odds are he ate it! Or one of the others. Whoever got it had delivery, though
Post by saphire2815 on Aug 18, 2009 17:46:21 GMT -5
Yeah, her face and reaction was so funny, I still giggle when I think about it.
Well the good eater group hasn't been eating as good as usual and it started with the cage change, grrr, they have to get use to the new quarters. But they are still eating, I'm gonna give it another day or two and see if attitudes change, if not I'll let them be close.
But today I started putting the dish of food in a carrier to give them a den to eat at, so if that works, maybe I can put one in their cage as a feeding den. These of the soft cloth ones that get for cats.
Post by sherrylynne on Aug 18, 2009 19:54:30 GMT -5
Any change and they go "off" for a while. One would almost think they were little prima donnas . Oh. Wait. They are!!! Are the potential dens easily washable? One of mine likes to "kill" her meat chunks. And no- she's never been live fed
Post by saphire2815 on Aug 19, 2009 11:52:21 GMT -5
They are canvas material, so I'm sure they can be washed. It was that, or get some bins from Walmart. We'll see. But no big eating going on here, and several have runny poo right now. Briar convinced me yesterday to give him some bandit treats and I tried to be sneaky and just give it to him, but all those sharp ears and noses figured it out real quick and everyone got some. I gave them all a little bit of Pepto this morning(approx 1/8-1/4 tsp each), hopefully when I get home tonight everyone will be feeling better. Of course Briar is the only one who's Tummy wasn't upset 'cause he's been refusing the raw from the beginning! LOL.
Post by sherrylynne on Aug 19, 2009 13:48:41 GMT -5
What brats they can be!! You know, I had to stop giving Bandit's treats long before mine went raw. One of my little guys has a bit of a sensitive tummy, and they always gave him funky poos. When I stopped them, the weird poos slowed down a lot! Getting him off chicken took care of the rest. You know what they'd likely think a real treat(at least some of them!)? Tiny slivers of meat hand fed. Ones they don't have to chew, the lazy bums that they are . Might even help some of the holdouts, too! Another trick you can try with your holdouts. When you've got the soup out, and their running around, grab one up, dab a bit on his/her nose, and let them go. Then, grab another, do the same. Try to make it almost a game of "who can mamma get". Like kids, when they are having fun, it's not such a chore for them to do what YOU want them to!
Post by saphire2815 on Aug 19, 2009 18:55:14 GMT -5
Feeling overwhelmed today, just put food down, not too many takers even the usuals walked away. I think I'm going to put them back to their original cages, they aren't even as active as usual, and I know they aren't eating as much 'cause I've decreased the kibble and thats not even getting eaten up.
Post by sherrylynne on Aug 19, 2009 22:58:55 GMT -5
I'm sorry things are getting tough. Unfortunately, they'll do this during a switch. Try to keep in mind, though, that they won't eat nearly as much of the raw as they did of the kibble. 1-2oz each would be really good. And it will get better! I promise You've been doing such a great job with them! If putting them back in the original cages is what it takes, then so be it. If any of them are bonded pairs/trios, they won't do as well separated anyway. It's also possible some of the treats may have upset some tummies, too! As they say- tomorrow is another day! And hopefully, the little brats will cooperate a bit more
Post by saphire2815 on Aug 20, 2009 8:42:51 GMT -5
I think this feeling could be PMS.....it makes emotions intensify for me.
I was wondering, it seems all the raw eaters have runny poos and it started after I added in a new mix of soup on Monday. I added dry duk soup mix to try and entice the not so good eaters, just coincides with the cage change too. Could it be a bad batch of soup, I took it away last night and didn't give them any this morning, I just opened a jar of chicken baby food and let them have that not too much interest from the raw eater group when I was looking, but between them and the cats it was all eaten. And I just put some raw bits on a plate without soup, not much interest, but some did get eaten.
But you know what Briar loved the baby food. Maybe I'll boil him some chicken and see if I can get him liking it by slowly adding raw to cooked?
I only buy the Beechnut baby food w/meat because that all it contains, Gerber adds cornstarch.
Since I took away the soup last night, the runny poo has shrunk. Lets see what happens when I get home.
;D I'll try not to let my emotions get the better of me
Post by sherrylynne on Aug 20, 2009 14:23:17 GMT -5
Their poo is probably a bit runny because they are getting a lot of liquid in their diet.Or, it could just be enough of a difference in the soup. With the ones that eat raw, how big are the pieces again? And that's great about Briar. Looks like you may have found an in with her! You can try adding a pinch of raw to the baby food, or trying the chicken cooked if you like. Just cook it less and less until it's raw. And about the emotions? Don't worry- we all go through that! I still get frustrated when I'm trying to intro a new meat to some of them, because we have to start from scratch all over again with each new flavour Believe me, I do understand! Just had a thought. You could try adding some powdered eggshell to the soup to help firm up the poops, or some pumpkin.
Post by saphire2815 on Aug 20, 2009 17:37:51 GMT -5
I think it was that batch of soup, things are getting better, this was like nasty runny. And it was everyone who was eating the soup, which had eggshell in it. I have pumpkin, I'll try and get them to eat some of that tonight.
The chunks are of varying size, because Bon Bon, and Baylee will eat what ever. I'm still slicing thin, but then leaving some of the slices large, and chopping some down to little squares. Good thing I have a good knife, and having it partially frozen makes it even easier And they are getting eaten by themselves with no soup. So maybe I'll make a new batch and then I'll actually get to freeze some, and just use it to get Butter to eat , which he is now starting to take little chunks.
Isn't baby food boiled and pureed? It's expensive, I think I rather just boil it myself, save a few bucks, I usually only keep 3-4 jars of baby food around. So I'll start try to get Briar to switch with this method this weekend.
Well tomorrow I'm working late, I work for an Alt-weekly newspaper and we have events several times of the year and when it comes to handling the cash they have to have a Corporate employee to do so. So gosh I get to sit at a door and take peoples money and wine (This is a bring your own wine). So I might post something tomorrow afternoon, but if I don't, you won't hear from me again until Saturday. Should be fun, I only have to work the first half, then I get to enjoy myself I'm not much of a wine drinker but I might find something I like.
Post by saphire2815 on Aug 22, 2009 9:31:52 GMT -5
OK, last night was fun, tried a few wines, but nothing that made me want to go buy a bottle .
So I was taking inventory so I knew I needed to buy today, opened up my container of ground eggshells and the smell! Whew! I think I figured out what was making everyone sick, I think I didn't clean them enough or something but they were rank! So I threw them away, and I'll have to start over with a new batch.
I had some unexpected expenses happen so I'm going to have to continue supplementing with kibble for another couple weeks. So with what I have I just have to buy chicken hearts and gizzards, and Wings or Feet or something like that to try and get them into bones.
Well with all the runny poo problems I just wanted to get everyone back to regular I had been giving less raw, and Bon Bon started Eating Kibble again . This weekend I'll get back on track, and both my boys are back in School next week so they won't be going to Grandma's anymore, so I'll have two extra hands for help.
Post by sherrylynne on Aug 22, 2009 14:12:11 GMT -5
Life happens! Don't worry about it. With the eggshells, let them dry entirely before pulverizing. It really makes a difference. And I'd say, yes, you found the culprit right there. For the bone, I'd stick with the wings for now. They can actually make an entire meal out of them!