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Post by luxuriousferret on Aug 8, 2009 9:29:50 GMT -5
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 8, 2009 12:32:53 GMT -5
You could try Evo cat and kitten. At least it's better than the dry version. Could you possible do freeze dried?
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Post by luxuriousferret on Aug 8, 2009 13:59:20 GMT -5
No, too exepensive. Is there a walmart-kind of canned kitten food that is good? I know like any kibble-type is crap, but would it be good?
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Post by weloveourweasels on Aug 8, 2009 15:25:11 GMT -5
No there isn't. Just stick to the brands of kibble we recommended to you when you were first convinced your mom would not let you feed raw.
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 8, 2009 16:44:38 GMT -5
What's your price range? With the Evo, where I am, I pay $2.15 for the large can. That's in Alberta, Canada. Maybe try to give the canned 2-3 times a week?
Ok, just checked it out. Can you get the Zupreem Exotic Feline Diet? Here's the mix for Z. feline(minus the additives):
Chicken, Liver,Water, Meat by-products, Poultry by-product meal,
Animal fat, Ground corn
Guaranteed Analysis – As fed
Crude Protein Min. 16.0%
Crude Fat Min. 14.0%
Crude Fiber Max. 1.0%
Moisture Max. 63.0%
Ash Max. 3.0%
Calcium Min. 0.4%
Phosphorus Min. 0.3%
Taurine Min. 0.05%
This is the dry ferret formula:
Chicken meal, Chicken fat, Chicken, Egg product,(wheat and corn were 3rd and fourth)
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein Not less than 40.0%
Crude Fat Not less than 20.0%
Crude Fiber Not greater than 2.0%
Moisture Not greater than 10.0%
The proteins and fats show as higher in the dry simply because it is all based on dry percentages. Looking at the canned the same way, it would be just as high, if not higher, than the dry. Since you cannot feed a natural diet in any way, shape, or form, I'd go with the canned if you can.
If possible, Evo, or even Wellness core would be far better choices, but you do what you can.
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Post by luxuriousferret on Aug 8, 2009 17:44:50 GMT -5
Ok, how many cans a day? Thats not too bad of a price, but I have to do it online, do you think it would be cheaper or the same?
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Emilee
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Post by Emilee on Aug 9, 2009 10:36:51 GMT -5
I think they'd eat a little more than they do on raw, so if one eats like 2oz a day, maybe 3 or so because they're not getting *as* much nutrients as they did in the raw. Don't quote me on that, though. I also wanted to suggest Before Grain canned dog and cat foods. The ingredients are literally the meat and water. So, if you get chicken, it's just chicken and water in the can. If you're ordering online, try to find a store that offers like, free shipping on orders. Cans are pretty heavy and shipping might kill you when you order online, so buying in bulk is worth it if you get free shipping. Here are some links to try ordering from (if you're in the US- don't know any other countries.) - Phydeaux has good canned cat foods that are worth looking into. phydeauxpets.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=P&Category_Code=CatFood&show=www.petfooddirect.com/store/brands4dept.asp?dept_id=6www.thatpetplace.com/pet/cat/infoL3/22477/category.webPetco also has Wellness canned which might be okay along with maybe Petsmart. I usually go by a rule- if I've seen the food in a commercial, chances are it's not good to feed! |
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 9, 2009 11:13:12 GMT -5
That is actually a really good rule of thumb, Emilee! Never really noticed that before, but you're right  |
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Post by luxuriousferret on Aug 9, 2009 12:09:57 GMT -5
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Post by luxuriousferret on Aug 9, 2009 12:13:46 GMT -5
Ok, so the before grain is not complete balanced, If I were to mix-match would it be fine?
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Post by luxuriousferret on Aug 9, 2009 12:15:52 GMT -5
I looked at instinct, it has an awful lot of veggies, but that seems better than grain though?
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Emilee
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Post by Emilee on Aug 9, 2009 14:41:21 GMT -5
Yup I just happened to notice that Thatpetplace.com just has Instinct.  Umm, it does have lots of veggies and canned foods don't need grains to keep itself together like kibble, so don't either bother with that stuff. Definitely mix and match if you want! Whatever they like eating! Phydeaux has several types of Evo meats so you can buy several of each meat. Granted, these are all cooked meats so... They have duck, chicken & turkey, beef, and venison. Evo dog canned foods have all of those along with rabbit. I think along with this, some Pingfords Porridge would really help keep it all balanced along with any other things/soups you feed. www.pingfordsporridge.comOr, if you could, there are some pre-made frozen raws you can order online that are ground up and everything. |
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 9, 2009 16:36:23 GMT -5
Checking the nutrient analysis, the Evo 95% chicken/turkey seems to be the best of those three(higher protein/fat), then the Evo cat/kitten, and then the Zupreem.
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Post by luxuriousferret on Aug 10, 2009 8:43:57 GMT -5
Ok, so ifI were to do evo 95% meat, it is colpletely balanced?
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Post by sherrylynne on Aug 10, 2009 10:04:32 GMT -5
It's what I feed my cats- they do fine on it, and the company says yes. So, I'd say yes.
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Or what can I do? High quality canned kitten food? 
