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Post by bronwyn on Feb 3, 2009 2:49:27 GMT -5
1. How many ferrets do you currently have? What are their names, ages, genders, and do they have any health problems (this is VERY important)?Bronwyn—8 months, female Hestia— ~6 years, female, no health problems just very lethargic Nereus(neer-oos)— ~6 years, male, no health problems All are MF ferrets 2. What are your ferrets currently eating? Include their main diet, plus any treats or supplements (such as duk soup).They currently get evo kibble. I have been giving duck soup at lunchtime. I have been making it with kibble and baby food, attempting to add ground raw. I leave a raw meal in the am/pm. I put some fish oil on the kibble for the older 2. 3. What kind of diet do you want to switch to?Right now, I am going for at least raw. I would love to switch to a whole prey or raw/whole prey combo for my entire household of critters (2 cats, dog, 3 ferrets) 4. Why do you want to switch to this more natural diet? I switched my cats over to evo kibble before I got my ferrets and was blown away by the changes I saw in them. I decided to try raw with them because it is even better for them health wise than kibble. (1 cat has severe IBS and has diarrhea for the entire 2 years I’ve had her) 5. Where/what/who got you interested in natural diets?Pretty much the same as above; I wanted a better alternative for my cats and began switching them prior to owning ferrets. 6. Please list the current weight for your ferret(s). Do they appear overweight? Underweight? How is there muscle tone? I have to find my paper with their weights. All of them have put on a lot of weight since I brought them home. Hestia and Nereus were very bony and their skin hung on them. In the past 2 weeks they have gained weight, Nereus is heavier than both of the other 2 combined. Hestia is smallest and could use some more weight. Nereus is good sized but I think he could still afford some padding, especially around his front half. 7. What is the condition of your ferret's teeth/gums? (can you get a picture?)I'll get some pictures posted--I need help holding them. Bronwyn—her teeth and gums are really good. They are very white and gums are pink Hestia—teeth are naturally worn(vet said they were still pretty good for her age). She has a small amount of build up on 1 tooth(has appt to get cleaned). They are off-white colored otherwise, gums are pink. Nereus—teeth are also naturally worn, vet cleared. Has small amount of build up on 1 tooth and they are off-white colored, gums are pink. 8. Describe the texture/color of your ferrets coat.Bronwyn—she is fluffy and very white, the black hair pattern has become more distinct since I’ve had her. She is developing black “sleeves” while the rest of the black is fading on her back end and getting darker near the front. When I got her (12/31) she was bristly and very coarse, some areas were very yellowed and her hair laid completely flat. Hestia—when I brought her home she was light yellow (still is) and had a very light brown sprinkled through her. Now she is lighter yellow and the brown is turning deep brown. She has developed a spot on her head and the last half of her tail has turned dark brown. 1 front leg turned brown, other is still white. Nereus—he is the worst colored, very deep yellow and had almost no outer coat(guard hairs?) He was missing fur along his spine, which has returned. The yellow hasn’t faded out of his coat at all but it is softer and getting longer. The brown on his coat has gotten darker. 9. How often does your ferret go to the bathroom?I’m not sure how much each individual goes but I have 2 litter boxes in the cage, they both have a small scoop of dirty litter each day. I usually find 3 spots a day outside the cage. I could probably fit the waste and the litter each day into a small sandwich bag. –if raw will make them go any less, I would be truly amazed. 10. Does your ferret's feces and/or urine smell? I don’t notice a smell that I’d say “stinks”. You really have to smelling it to notice, but it reminds me of raw meat. Very faint—guests in our home never smell it. 11. Smell your ferret. How strong is their odor?They don’t smell to me. Nereus smells a bit muskier but I think it is because he is a boy. They don’t leave an odor on their bedding or your clothes. I honestly change their bedding more because of the shedding and the cat being on it than the smell of it. 12. On a scale of 1-10, 1 being completely lethargic and 10 being "through the roof!" what is your ferret's energy level?Bronwyn—9 she is curious and will spend a large portion of the day wandering on her own Hestia—4 she sleeps a lot. The other 2 will wake from a dead sleep if they hear any kind of door open. She usually sleeps until its time to eat or she is woken up by someone. Nereus—10 he is always playing or exploring. He is the kinda guy that seriously plays until he collapse wherever (his favorite seems to be wrapped around the toilet while stashing toys 13. How excited is your ferret about meal time (when fed kibble)? Hestia and Nereus are very excited but they are still adjusting to a feeding schedule and not getting it whenever they want it. Bronwyn could care less most days, she usually waits until I feed the cats. She has started eating at meal times because I put them in the cage for meals. 14. Have you attempted to switch from kibble to a natural diet in the past? If so, what methods have you tried. Be specific.Nope. 15. What other information about your ferret(s) would you like to share? Most of you know, I have already started attempting to switch. So far, Bronwyn eats raw 90% of the time. I see her occasionally eat the kibbles. She eats considerably less now than when I first brought her home. Hestia and Nereus don’t like raw at all. I have been working on going to duck soup but they won’t touch it when I add ground raw meat. They only like it with watery kibble, baby food and fish oil. They don’t even try it when they see Bronwyn eating it. 16. If you can, please post a clear photograph of EACH of your ferrets directly below:Bronwyn, colors are good but her hair is much poofier looking in person Hestia, you can see her head is white, the rest is still light yellow Nereus-you can see that is isn't very white. You can't actually see how yellow he is. *there is nothing wrong with his leg, he was standing up after rolling over* 17.
a.) Do you understand that by starting this thread you commit to posting updates on the progress of your ferret(s) diet switch at least every other day?**yes b.) Do you understand that if you will be away from your computer for an extended period of time you will need to exchange phone numbers (or email addresses if you don't feel comfortable exchanging numbers)via private message with your assigned mentor, so that we can monitor your progress and ensure your ferret's safety during the switch?yes c.) Do you understand that any threads that have not been updated in for more then a week (with no explanation as to why you are absent) will result in the deletion of the thread?***yes
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Post by sherrylynne on Feb 3, 2009 9:53:56 GMT -5
Hi, Bronwyn! Glad to see that you decided to check out the mentor section! A few of us will probably be posting in with ideas until Guili can assign a mentor to you. To start, since both Nereus and Hestia are somewhat resistant to soupies with meat, and I'm assuming here that you are using some ground in the soup, try pureeing the meat in with the soupies. If they still refuse, try mixing in a little of the blood from the package instead. You may have to scruff them, and keep putting some on their noses and mouths to get them to taste it with either method. Do this often enough, and they will start eating it. Let us know how it goes!
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Post by bronwyn on Feb 4, 2009 12:12:52 GMT -5
02/03 Results
I decided to try something new yesterday and I actually saw Hestia and Nereus eat raw meat! I skipped the duck soup for lunch--
I cut up some beef into pieces about the size of the kibble and coated it in crunched kibble crumbs. I scruffed Nereus and fed him 2 pieces. I had to put it back in one time because he spit it out. After that, I just put the bowl in the cage. Hestia chose to eat the meat. She looked like she was going to lick the crumbs off but then ate the meat pieces too! Nereus started digging through the bowl as soon as I put it down and ate a heaping teaspoonful while I watched. Bronwyn had zero interest in the food.
I tried the same thing again for dinner. They didn't eat while I was watching but this morning over half the bowl was gone.
Bronwyn had whole ground pheasant for both meals. Both of her plates were emptied.
I found some poo in the box that looked like it had a whole beef piece in it, is that normal? I didn't see anymore than just the 1 piece.
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Post by sherrylynne on Feb 4, 2009 19:18:16 GMT -5
Excellent! Go ferrets ! It feels good when they actually eat what you put in front of them, doesn't it? For Nereus and Hestia, I'd keep them going with the little meat chunks with the coating for now. And good idea taking the soup out, by the way! Hunger does add spice to a meal With Bronwyn, have you tried adding a few larger bits to her ground at all?
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Post by bronwyn on Feb 5, 2009 14:20:42 GMT -5
02/04 Results
I tried the small beef chunks coated in kibble for am meal. It didn't go over as well as yesterday. Hestia licked off the kibble. Nereus didn't really eat much.
I skipped the duck soup lunch again.
PM meal was the same. They both ate some of it. I checked this morning and about half of it was eaten.
Bronwyn was fed with the cats. They are getting a mix of more chunks/bones and a little bit of ground. They had chicken thighs and ground turkey for AM and chicken chunks and ground turkey for PM. She ate the ground and smaller sized chunks-smaller than a dime.
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Post by sherrylynne on Feb 6, 2009 0:00:46 GMT -5
Sometimes, it just takes a while for them to realize how to chew, and the fact that they have to do so! I also found with mine, I had to vary what they ate, or they got bored with it. Sometimes mine also went through what I called "the sulks", especially Boris, when he would decide he wanted his kibbles, and nothing else! Try it again in the am, and if they eat everything, great, if not, you may have to step back a bit, but that's ok too. They'll let you know the pace they are willing to go at. Sometimes they can be such stubborn little brats , but you are still doing great! After all, they just started trying this! And they have been eating some, so that's great!
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Post by bronwyn on Feb 6, 2009 10:01:02 GMT -5
02/05 Results
Today I tried to coat chicken chunks in kibble. Hestia and Nereus were not impressed. They wouldn't try it at all. I scruffed Nereus again and fed him a couple of pieces. He just spit them all back out at least 3 time each before finally giving up. Hestia is almost impossible to force feed. When you scruff her, she goes completely limp and almost falls asleep. She is the most extreme response I have ever seen to scruffing.
Skipped duck soup lunch.
PM--tried the chicken again. They still didn't want it. I finally made some duck soup before I went to bed. They ate that and some of the chicken was gone. I assume that was Bronwyn though because she was eating it when I got up around 6 this morning.
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Post by sherrylynne on Feb 6, 2009 22:23:08 GMT -5
Have you tried making soup with pureed raw? That is the only way I could get Boris to try raw. I made my usual soup, but used 1/4 raw meat in place of cooked. Then I just kept putting it on his nose until he started licking it off my finger. It's sounding like those two will be stubborn about the switch, but we'll get you through it. You might also consider some freeze dried raw, like Archetypal 1 for ferrets, from Wysongs. You can get it from jojodancer, at Casey's Hidden Pantry if you can't find it locally. The taste and the texture seem to be something ferrets like, even my Boris ! But until you do, I'd maybe give the raw/cooked soup blend a shot.
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Post by mustelidmusk on Feb 7, 2009 11:33:33 GMT -5
Hi! Welcome to the world of raw-fed ferrets!!!! I'm jennifer - aka mustelidmusk, and Giuli has assigned me as your mentor!! SherryLynne, you're always welcome to post here - you have great experience siwtching ferrets, especislly since little Boris could be such a little stinker (I helped SherryLynne switch her babies to raw.) I've never owned cats, but I frequent a site called catnutrition.org for info on raw feeding. You may be able to find some diet-related info to help your cat with the IBD. I know that some of the ferrets on this site have IBD, and getting away from the grains and chicken (food allergy) has helped them a lot. I think cat nutrition .org has some kitty-specific info on IBD/recipes/raw feeding that you may find useful. A bit about my my own raw feeding experience....My first two ferrets had a lot of very serious health problems throughout their lives - this was all so heart-breaking that I swore off ferrets. Then I baby sat my friend's intact adolescent boys - that was it - I was corrupted!!! I decided that after a year without fuzz in my life, I could no longer be ferretless!!!! I now have four ferrets. three of them will turn four next month, and One of them will turn 3 in July. They all were switched to raw as kits. I feed 2 meals of commercial raw diet daily. I provide a snmall bowl of balanced, freeze-dried raw food for snacking between meals. They also get some raw meaty bones, organ meats, etc. (No whole prey since my husband woul flip out with mice in the fridge ) I've been mentoring since the beginning days of this forum. I tend to advocate a slow-switch method (let the ferrets set the pace), especially when oler ferets who are set in their ways are ben switched. Each method, slow or fast, has its pro's and cons, but the slow switch is less stressful oon everyone unless all ferrets take to the diet quickly, and this typically happens only with kits!!!! I've helped switch ferrets to hydrid raw & kibble diets, all raw diets based upon commercial foods, and raw meaty bones (RMB diets) supplemented with whole prey. So even though I feed commercial products, I can help with other feeding practices as well. Here's some general info about switching ferrets.... There are a few appraches to slow-switching ferrets to raw. I think a combiation works best, especially if you have a picky ferret or two. Here are the 2 most basic approaches: 1. wet food - start with dry kibble, add water starting with a small amount . Increase the amount of liquid in the recipe until you have them eating a soup. of course, chisken baby food, fish oil, egg yolk, ground egg shell, etc, can be added to the recipe. Once your ferrets are eating soup, start adding groun bits of meats to the soup. Gradually increase the size of the meat pieces and gradually, reduce the amount of soup. 2. Dry food - start with dery kibble. sprinkle small amounts of fnely shredded freeze-dried diet into their kibble and mix it up. This way, the little brats have a tough time pick around the raw meat! It also helps to mix some kibble and freeze-dried togeher for storage so the two food types share a more common smell. This lso makes it harder for a ferret to discriminate. Tricks - on top of all this, I use some tricks that involve enrichment. I find that switch is a lot more fun fo bother the ferret and the owner if you focus on providing new experiences for your brats. And it does hel the ferret remain interested in the feeding program. 1. Tasting: Ferrets imprint on food at a very young age (6 months or earlier). They recognize their food by smell. The imprinting never changes, and you'r asking them to eat things they don't recognize as food. According to Bob Church, ferrets have a taste bud for protien which enables them to overcome their imprinting. This will happen as long as you get meat on the ferret's tongue. Here are some examples of some tricks..... Putting soup/food on the nose so they have to lick it off. Putting chunks of meat in their mouths kibble-coating meat chunks playing tug-of-war with strips of meat mixing meat juices with water 2. Smell enrichments: Smell is an important part of the ferret's sensory system, since ferret imprinting is based upon smell, xpanding the range of your ferrets olfactory experiences help to create a more curious and adventuresome attitude. Basically, use lots of different smells during playtime. Couple this with tastes of raw food. Dirty socks, sweaty T-shirts, dirty garden gloves, stinky cheese, etc. all make great stimulators fro the ferret brain. Make sure playtime is fun and adventuresome in terms of "sense of smell". 3. play time Games are fun for ferrets. playing tug-of-twar with a strip of meat is a grea way to get ferrets to taste meat. Also, put out bowls of "flavoreed water" (with baby food or meat juices) and raw food. ALso include stinking things in the environment for smell enrichment. Hand feeding treats is good practice as well. 4. Feeding Dens Feeding raw does elicit somme instintive responses from ferrets. Some ferrets are timid about eating raw in an open environment. As such. putting foo in a feeing den can also encourage some ferrets to eat raw meats. 5. Foraging cups Freeze-dried meats hidden in foraging cups is also a great way tp provide entertainment value food. When a ferret finds a hidden teasure, he may actuall decide to eat it so nobody else can hae it . This should give yo n idea of some thigs to try Please pick sotme things that sound like fun, givethem a try and let me know how it goes....e can adjust h approac any difernt hinsfrom there!!! One more thing, cicken is a good plae to start sinc3 most ferret foods are chicken-based. I recommend using dark meat -( thigh meat is particularly good) Ferrets prefer the darker meat since it's tastier and more nutritiou as well. More fat, more taurine, more flavor!!) Have fun a please let me know how it goes!!! -thanks! -jennifer
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Post by sherrylynne on Feb 7, 2009 20:12:35 GMT -5
Hi, Jennifer- really glad to see you here! Bronwyn, this lady is amazing for helping some ferts get through the entire transition, and you couldn't have anyone better to help get your ferties switched over!
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Post by bronwyn on Feb 7, 2009 20:15:27 GMT -5
02/06 Results
Bronwyn tried to eat off of a whole chicken thigh today. She would grab it and shake as hard as she could but I could tell she wasn't getting much. I cut up some smaller chunks for her and 1 of the cats. She kept at the thigh for 30 minutes or so. When I looked at it, I didn't see much eaten but it was sure full of holes.
Hestia and Nereus were given a mix of small chicken and beef pieces coated in kibble powder. Nereus picked out some beef and pushed away the chicken. Hestia licked off the kibble pieces again.
PM-I made duck soup again. All 3 ate it and the bowl was cleaned out this morning when I changed it.
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Post by bronwyn on Feb 7, 2009 23:26:23 GMT -5
Hey there-nice to meet you. I'm getting the feeling that Hestia and Nereus are going to make this a very slow process. Hestia is going to be the worst of the group. She is very stubborn and very obstinate when she doesn't get her way. I got Bronwyn 2 weeks before the other 2 and she is a lot younger so I haven't had to fight her as much. She has no problem eating ground foods and small chunks at this point.
I hadn't thought about turning eating meat into a game. I think Nereus will love that. He chases everything! I'll try that out on him tomorrow.
Sherrylynne has been an awesome cheerleader and I love it! I think the entire process would be so much harder if I had to do this all by myself-Thank you guys!
I haven't entirely decided what approach to raw I am going to end up with. I originally wanted to go RMBs and wanted to switch to whole prey or a mix. I have been looking into commerical diets lately and I really like that I wouldn't have to spend as much time preparing food but I think that will go down considerably when they actually are eating raw food. Plus the price of shipping makes it a very costly option compared to shopping for RMBs and meats at the store/butcher.
I am on the hunt for a dark colored bin to use as a feeding den already. I have only been able to find tan containers in town. I am going to start checking the internet soon. Right now I am using smaller cardboard boxes. I put their food inside it hoping they will get used to that before I add whole meat pieces to it.
Anyway, Jessica
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Post by mustelidmusk on Feb 8, 2009 13:25:29 GMT -5
Hi! (I have to aologize up front for my typing - I have a wireless keyboard, and I get lazy about proof-reading- I saw my cryptic typing in my last post ) Anyway.... Sounds like you have a wonderfiul little meat-grinder who's just learning how to handle "the big stuff"!!!! I'm impressed that Bronwyn stuck with the thigh for 30 minutes . A chicken thigh or leg is a big, item for a ferret - especially fo a beginner.... Unlike dogs, ferrets don't tend to use their paws to hold mea ad pull flesh off the boes. You'll fid that they shake their "prey" and then try to get it sideways in their mouths. The meat will hang out the side of their mouths (usually one side), and then they get the meat back by those carnassial teeth (the big pointy ones in back) for slicing. The caines are largely used for grabbing and shaking, wich kills the prey and loosens the meat/carcass. A ferret does not grind its food - their jaws have no lateral movement. You''ll otice that a ferret will get a strip of flesh properly aligned and the use a rapid, small-range, scissor-like motion to cut meat - pretty cool! The lesson here is understanding the mechanics of ferret eating. This will help you watch your babies eat so you'll be able to offer them manageble food they can learn on. I know this sounds funny, but ferrets build confidence through their successes...(which is why mine are so BRATTY - spoiled rotten - I always let them win ) You want this to be a challenge but alo something that builds character for good hunting . So, here's the recommendation: score the thigh heavily cut throgh the meat down to the bone, at first, cut the meat parallel to the bone so longer strips can be grasped an successfully moved into the back teeth on one side if the ferrets mouth. this way Bronwyn can sit next to the thigh chew on a strip that's attached to the bone. You may want to cut thigh meat to the bone such tha a big flap is hanging off of it. Then cut the flap to make a few eparate strands that are easier to maiuplate each strand can be about a quarter-inch in diameter.) Don't worry about what .how you ultimately want to feed right now, you'll figure that out as you go along, and a lot of tmes people change what they want to do and what they can to after they graduate depending on what's going on in their lives at the moment. The youngster( six months and under) are usually pretty easy to switch. It's always good to have a youngster when switching to raw since ferrets learn from each other. The game thing is a good way to approach the switch. SOme ferrets take a long time to switch. Your kids sound like they won't be too tough since they already eat soup and they've eaten a few tidbits. Everything you sit down for a play session, bring raw food and different smells into the activity in some form. Even if you're ot providing a meal (only a little kibble-coated treat), the positive associationof the playtime with the the raw "treat" and new smells (like stinky cheese or old grass clippings ) will keep your ferrets interested in what's coming next - otherwise, they'll see you coming with the raw food and they my want to escape . The next thing you kow, you'l be dreading meal times as much as your ferrets, and you'll all feel like giving up. Instead, switching can bevery fun for everyone, and it's a great way to bond with each of your ferrets - you get to learn thei deep, dark little secrets . Strips of the dark chicken or turkey meat great place to start for tug of war. You can put a little ferrtone/vite on the biting end if you want to. If this gets messy, bathrooms are a great place to mess up sine they clean up easily! Another thing about feeding ferrets.....(I learned a lot of this stuff doing wildlife rehab.) carnivores don't like to stick their heads into a big bowl food that's in a deep dish. There are couple of reasons for this....1. It's dangerous - it's unhygenic to get wet food on your fur that you may not be able to get completely cleaned off down to the actual skin- this is why vultures have no feathers on their heads/necks - they have to reach into a carcass to feed. If food persists on the skin, infection devlops and the animal can die from this (and they sometimes do in the wild) 2. It's dangerous.....If you've evr watch a crow approad roadkill, they wk up cauiously, they pick at a pieceof the carcass, and they jump backwards with wings spread . (it's funny to watch). They do this several times to make sure the carcass is really dead before settling down for a meal. EEEEEWWWWWWW!!!! 3. It's dangerous - ifthe animal's head is buried in its food , it cannot see, hear , or smell for danger very well. If the animal's head is buried, it cannot make the quickest possible escape from danger. In short, asking a ferret to eat raw meat from a deep bowl of with a large portion of food (overwhelmingly stinky , masking the smell on danger) goes against nature. Ever notice how animals love to snarf up single a tidbit of food? It's an easy and risk-free treat! So, this is why the feeding dens are good - the dens don't even need to be all that dark - (you can always put a towel over the bin when you feed them. ) Ferrets naturally drag prey to their dens for private eating - they are relatively slow eaters compared to dogs. Also, dens help to curb caching and keep the shaken meat /juices in a contained area - Plus they are easy to clean. Inside the den, here's what you'll want to do....If you choose to use a dish at all, use a flat open plate or plate-like dish. Make a FEW tidbits of the kibble/ferretone ("doctored-up")meat, and spead maybe 4 -5 of these tidbits apart from eachother on the plate. This approach may help to stimulate the safe "snatch and run" behavior. Plus, if I'm going to try a piev of raw liver, I'm more likely to do this when there's one small tidbit on the plate rather than having a huge slab of the slimy stuff right in my face when it stinks to high heaven as well! WHen you do the play feeding, you don't necessarily need to bring the dens into the picture, but the concept that "less is more" still holds - smaller tidbits spread around on the flat plate work better - Here's a good way to treat them - offer a plate that has a few dabs of theer favorite oup (tastes) in between the meat tidbits that are roled in kibble and perhaps dabbed with meat. During the play sessions, the concept of an "hors d' oeurves" (or however you spell it!) plate can still apply - but even more so... the flat plate, of course. You may even want to put a small piec of cheese, a tiny piece of tuna (the canned stuff is really salty, but one tiny bit is OK once in a while - the idea is to put strange things with the familiar and keep things INTERESTING for them. I recommend that this plate be offered outside the den so you can watch their reactions to the various smells. If you work to vary your offerings (including smelly non-edibles, the ferrets will be looking forward to their enrichment. So. what if there are no "takers" for the meat? Incorporate cramming the meat tidbits into thei mouths wih playtime. During a game of tug-of-war with a sock whenyour ferret is all wound up and grabbingat the sock, swap out thesock for that strip of meat. Still not working???. Quickly cruff your ferrets and stick a piece of meat into hi mouth. If he spits it out, stick it back in. Try this 3 times, put him down and immediately start playing again. Just make ure you're getting meat on that tongue. ALso....continue with the soup putting some ground meat into it. as always start with a smaller amout of meat. Increase the amount of meat slowly over time. Let me know what is working, not working - all ferts are very different, which is what makes them o special Have fun! -jennifer
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Post by bronwyn on Feb 8, 2009 15:23:46 GMT -5
I didn't give Bronwyn the thigh--she commandeered it from a cat. She is nothing if not persistent so the 30 minutes at it seemed short for her. She tends to have a very long attention span and will often keep at the same task for an hour or so. It is great when she stashes things, I tend to find mountains of stuff all crammed in a closet.
She doesn't like pieces any bigger than kibble right now but since the cats started getting whole pieces, she is trying it out too.
I tried to play tug-o-war with Nereus. He was really excited, it is his favorite game. Well, he grabbed a hold on the meat, pulled a second and spit it out and stared at me. I tried again, he tried again and ended the same. The third time he wasn't going for it at all.
At this point, Hestia doesn't seem to play much. She will wrestle around on a very rare occasion and that lasts about a minute.
I have been feeding them on a small flat tray. I didn't really plan on using a dish when I got them into a feeding den because I figured it would just be another thing to have to clean out everyday. I use low sided puppy feeding pans(looks like a shallow pie pan) for the cats. Bronwyn climbs right inside them to eat.
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Post by bronwyn on Feb 8, 2009 15:29:47 GMT -5
02/07 Results
I decided to try making soup(a bit chunkier than normal) for the meals today. I wet the kibble with some thawed chicken part juice and added a little bit of meat baby food. They had the bowl cleaned out when I cleaned the cage at lunch time.
PM-I fed the same meal they had for breakfast. This morning it was all gone again.
Bronwyn at with the cats, as is becoming her normal thing. I will probably get back to eating with the other 2 when they are doing more meat. I don't want to backtrack her and have to start again.
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