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Post by quill on Jun 27, 2008 13:49:54 GMT -5
Chaos died from a reaction to an INJECTION of 1% promectin. Promctin is a form of ivermectin. Revolution contains ivermectin and is applied topically.
It is my understanding that studies have shown certain dogs and people have reaction leading to death from injections of promectin. pm me for link
However, it is my understanding, even though a chemical, topical application of revolution has proven safe except in certain dog breeds. No documented research on Ferrets.
Keep in mind that anything applied to the skin will be absorbed into the body/blood stream. This is how revolution works.
Personally, After losing my precious Chaos, have decided not to use chemicals on any of my animals. For flea/ticks/mosquitoes i'll try the neem oil. For ear mites i'll try olive oil as preventive adding the garlic if mites are present.
Of course, any condition considered an emergency or life threatning will present reconsideration.
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Post by weloveourweasels on Jun 27, 2008 21:49:08 GMT -5
So i found today in my mom's spice rack some dehydrated (i guess it was dry) minced garlic. I put about 2 teaspoons worth in a little cup and added a tablespoon of olive oil. i mixed it up really good and let it sit for a few minutes then i poured the mixture into a coffee filter and squeezed out all of the oil into another small cup to create my garlic infused oil. I am going to clean out their ears every day and just hope it works. I have been searching for other options I will post soon. Also no one answered if the apple cider vinegar will help with ear mites by giving it in their water.
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Post by hales on Jun 28, 2008 11:35:42 GMT -5
I talked to my boss today (who is a vet at the clinic I work at) about the olive oil/garlic ear mite solution.
He cringed when I mentioned the word garlic. I proceeded to explain that I know it's toxic, but I would be frying it in a pan until all of the moisture is gone, and the garlic is browned. He explained to me that the olive oil would only drown the mites that were living there, but would not affect their eggs...which would hatch later. He said it works better as a preventative than a way to actually get rid of them.
Unless the garlic does something more to them? I guess I'm confused as to the role the garlic plays on the mixture. I'd like to try it today on Molly so I can try and give her some relief in those poor little ears.
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Post by tss on Jun 28, 2008 12:18:15 GMT -5
Hales, the garlic is very nasty smelling and tasting to the mites. The whole point of repeating the oil treatment is to kill off any adults left behind and kill any that hatch out.
The treatment worked for my ferrets, there ears still get pretty dirty but they don't stink anymore. I've found that with the ferrets and dogs the more often you clean they're ears the dirtier they get.
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Post by hales on Jun 28, 2008 14:11:42 GMT -5
I have the garlic and olive oil in the pan right now, cooling...
I'm going to try it on Molly today, and I'll recheck her ears in a few days? That should be enough time to see improvement, right?
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Post by Forum Administrator on Jun 28, 2008 15:51:40 GMT -5
I would think so. You just want to keep treating the ears for LONGER then you'd think (thus killing any newly hatched larvae)
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Post by hales on Jun 28, 2008 17:24:44 GMT -5
Hmm.. how often should I reapply it?
And should I clean Rikki & Luna's ears with it too, even though they didn't have any mites or larvae?
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Post by Forum Administrator on Jun 28, 2008 17:27:07 GMT -5
I would re-apply about once a day, and yes, I'd do Ricky and Luna too (just to be safe).
Once the mites are under control, I would clean their ears once a week with the garlic/olive oil mix.
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Post by hales on Jun 29, 2008 19:34:57 GMT -5
So I told my boss (the veterinarian...who's been practicing since 1985) about me trying the garlic-infused olive oil treatment. He laughed at me.  haha he said it's worth a shot, and he doesnt think it will hurt the ferrets -- but he doesn't think it will work. I told him I'm going to continue with it, and I'll let him know the results. Who knows, maybe I could have him recommending it to his clients in the future  When I mentioned it, he told me about a client he used to have who would feed her dog garlic because she believed it made the dog smell, therefore warding off mosquitoes and lessening the risk of heartworm. Apparently this reminded him of that.... but that is just silly  Does anyone have any testimonials after trying the garlic-infused olive oil with LIVE mites? |
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Post by hales on Jul 4, 2008 15:34:07 GMT -5
Well.... After doing the garlic-infused olive oil treatment for a few days, I'm happy to report that when I took a swab of Molly's ear wax and looked at it at work, it was mite AND egg free! She still has a lot of buildup in her ears (I honestly think it has something to do with malformed ear canals and the deaf gene), but they seem to be all clear. Rikki and Luna's ears have actually gotten better, and have less wax now. I'm very pleased that this worked  I want to thank you guys for recommending it! |
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Post by Forum Administrator on Jul 4, 2008 15:46:02 GMT -5
No problem Haley. Isnt it amazing how you dont even have to use harsh chemicals and these things can actually work  Bet your vet isnt laughing at you now, huh? |
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Post by Forum Administrator on Jul 6, 2008 9:28:39 GMT -5
ADMINISTRATORS NOTE: I've "cleaned up" this thread. All posts that are not related to earmites and their treatment have been deleted, this is to keep the thread as relevant and easy to follow as possible. Thank you for understanding
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Post by spiritualtramp on Jul 23, 2008 10:57:41 GMT -5
I've always just used plain olive oil for doing ears, but recently noticed that Pilot seemed to be itchier than usual and suspect mites --- so I'm going to try this. Thanks!
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Post by josiesmom on Jul 23, 2008 12:35:37 GMT -5
While I whole heartedly agree that mineral oil should never be offered as an internal prophylactic I do have to ask- exactly how many nutrients get absorbed from the ears? I am not proposing using mineral oil because as we all know other ferrets might ingest the stuff during a communal grooming. My ferrets are on Revolution so mites aren't much of a problem, I did have a short lived issue when Fozzy was in his final weeks. The mites infected Faylene too but a couple doses of MIta Clear from Pfizer got rid of of them in short order. Actually Revolution contains Selamectin not Ivermectin; Selamectin is safer than Ivermectin. But like all things, there are bound to be ferrets that are sensitive or allergic. Neem oil is a tree oil product and some animals or people may have a sensitivity to that. It also contains steroids- something to be aware of when applying. What ever product you use on your ferret it is always safest to try a "spot test first". I recommend a dab on the end of the ferret's tail. Wait 24 hours and check for any swelling or redness and watch the ferret for itchiness. Cheers, Kim I don't do anything specific for their ears now except check them to see that they are clean. The obvious source of your problem apparently is the cat- I'd either do one of two things, adopt the cat as your own since the owners obviously don't care about it and your ferrets must get along with it. Or be firm about informing your neighbors their cat is in dire need of medical care and they need to tend to it pronto or the animal authorities need to be informed! Cheers, Kim |
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Post by quill on Jul 25, 2008 19:55:33 GMT -5
While I whole heartedly agree that mineral oil should never be offered as an internal prophylactic I do have to ask- exactly how many nutrients get absorbed from the ears? I am not proposing using mineral oil because as we all know other ferrets might ingest the stuff during a communal grooming. My ferrets are on Revolution so mites aren't much of a problem, I did have a short lived issue when Fozzy was in his final weeks. The mites infected Faylene too but a couple doses of MIta Clear from Pfizer got rid of of them in short order. Actually Revolution contains Selamectin not Ivermectin; Selamectin is safer than Ivermectin. But like all things, there are bound to be ferrets that are sensitive or allergic. OOPS! I stand corrected It's Frontline that contains a derivative ivermectin. |
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