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Post by weloveourweasels on Sept 6, 2008 0:54:46 GMT -5
is present and they dont like it? I have never heard of it before.
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Post by Forum Administrator on Sept 6, 2008 1:19:10 GMT -5
Yes, a ferret can (and sometimes will) resort to urinating (or defecating) to mark territory upon the introduction of a new ferret. This is normal behavior. It doesnt happen in EVERY ferret (as all ferrets are different). The problem is *usually* resolved once the new ferret is sucessfully accepted into the business. Why do you ask? Got any announcements, Jessica?  |
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Post by weloveourweasels on Sept 6, 2008 1:50:40 GMT -5
lol no I have a friend with a new ferret. He is having a really big problem and is worried the Alpha female is trying to kill the baby because she screams really loud. I am trying to get him to take a video so i can post it on here and see what u all have to say about it. The baby is in a different cage and the Alpha male and female. The male likes her but the female cant stand her. I told him to try putting the babies hammock in with the other 2 and maybe the smell will help.
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Post by Heather on Sept 6, 2008 9:38:20 GMT -5
Yes, ferrets pee and poo to mark of territory and quite often when you introduce a new ferret the business will pee and poo in strategic locations (doorways, hallways and such). I have an alpha female who will not accept any other female. Lady B will not allow any other female in her space. She lives quite comfortably with the males (she's not fond of Aremis, but he doesn't like her either, he runs with Lady Sprite) but she hates all the other girls and the screaming that comes out of there if she gets one of them is horrible. I actually have to keep her away from the other girls. She's a nasty piece of work. Screaming doesn't necessarily mean problems, screaming and poofy tails are ok but if a ferret poops or pees itself then it's time to call it quits. You can try again later, but I've found that those altercations are serious and they can do serious damage to each other. If the other ferret is a baby and is not being accepted then chances are the female will not accept that baby. Most ferrets will accept a baby readily enough. I would have some serious reservations introducing the baby to a female ferret who has shown violence to the kit. I would seriously wait until the kit is older before trying again, but I wouldn't really hold my breath on some serious success. Just my opinion of course |
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Post by weloveourweasels on Sept 7, 2008 0:58:00 GMT -5
Thank you so much both of you. The new baby is also a female and she hates her. Maybe he can get another male to keep the baby company. I don't know. I told him last night to put the male in with the baby every other night so she has some company. The baby screams really loud he says. This is sad for him. I didn't get a video because he didn't get a cam yet but i guess his description is all we need. He has had her for a couple weeks.
The Alpha female Milkshakes marked on the bed while he had all three of them up there. (she had never used the bathroom on the bed before) She was looking right at baby Sarah when she did it.
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Post by Heather on Sept 7, 2008 7:41:56 GMT -5
I personally would not put that baby ferret in with her ... ever  It doesn't sound promising. How old is the baby?? I have a couple of screamers ... it doesn't mean they're being hurt though...they're deaf. Lady B, Attila, Aremis, Thor and Fungo all scream, even while playing. Of that batch only Thor can hear. Of course of that batch he's the only one when play gets too rough poofs too  I wish I had some hope to offer but I wouldn't put another female in with that particular ferret. Lady B will not tolerate another female and she's very alpha...she's ok with most of the boys but no girls. My other girls get along reasonbly well, with only the warning bark to show that they're not happy with someone in their presence. Ciao |
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Post by weloveourweasels on Sept 7, 2008 16:51:17 GMT -5
The baby is only about 3 months old. I think her being deaf might be a possibility because I think she is a blaze. Cute little girl. I think the Alpha female is about 2 years old. Hopefully he can either get another male or alternate the Alpha male between the 2 girls so Sarah doesn't get lonely. Thank you.
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Post by weloveourweasels on Sept 10, 2008 17:28:06 GMT -5
OMG I am horrified. A friend of his suggested to him to maybe file down Milkshakes teeth so she won't hurt the baby. Here is what she said my friend has 3 ferrets a 3 year old girl, milkshakes, a 2 1/2 year old boy, smoothie, and a 3month old girl, sarah.. when he brought home sarah smoothie instantly took a liking to her...milkshakes on the other hand tries to kill her every time she lays eyes on her(up to this day)... milkshakes lunges into the air to get to sarah and bites her neck and shakes repeatedly, while defenseless sarah screams...this isn't normal dominance behavior, i really think milkshakes wants her dead so anyway the vet said that my friend was suppose to leave the ferrets in cages beside each other and like 2 weeks it would be fixed..but its been almost 3 weeks and we have gotten no progress... the only thing i can suggest to my friend is to file down milkshakes' fangs so it wont hurt the baby as bad.. is this right? Here is what I said That is not right at all. That is very wrong of you to suggest that. dog fighters will file down the bait dogs teeth so it wont hurt the other dog during training and it causes problems with eating. I told him what to do allready. Either keep them apart and give them both different play times or get rid of one of them. Here is a thread I made up on a forum I am on for him. They have said there is no hope and to keep the females seperated. It is very dangerous to keep them together. I hope you take the time to read this because these are very experienced ferret owners and know what they are talking about. holisticferret.proboards80.com/in... |
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Post by buzzonesbirdie on Sept 11, 2008 8:59:54 GMT -5
My ferret Hydra will NOT under any circumstances accept another female ferret. We thought long hand hard before we said that we would keep Daisy,Xena, Datta, and Rosa because we knew that we were entering the world of two groups. I would tell your friend that not to try anything again till the baby is older but to not hold his breath about them getting along.
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Post by Heather on Sept 11, 2008 9:43:06 GMT -5
Look in all honesty, putting the fact aside that the one female obviously has no intention of accepting the other. I, also run 2 business hours  . My one large group, 9 ferrets, get to play outside and have full run of the house first thing in the morning. The rest of the business with all my little ladies (they play well together, and Mr. Fun-go Squiggly and Aremis (being treated lymphomas and IBD) play in the ferret room with all the toys and tunnels. It's Lady B Itchy who doesn't play well with the rest of the fairer gender ) This group is then switched up at 2 so that everyone else gets outtime in house. I didn't want to run separate play times but truthfully it's inevitable. Now, back to my original point, I'm wandering  . You can possibly file down those teeth to prevent puncture damage "but"....you will not be able to prevent the psychological damage that will be done. That little ones life will be absolutely miserable, until finally she will get either IBD or ulcers (as all ferrets who are kept in stress situations will eventually get). I had a little ferret turned into me along with 2 huge strapping males. Now, factor in that Little Mischief was a Marshalls and the other 2 boys were Path Valley, there will be a huge size difference anyway. That aside, when Little Mischief was turned into me, he was a cowering bag of bones, who didn't care if he lived or died with a serious ulcer issue. Those 2 boys, Mayhem and Mad Max beat on him all the time. They would scruff him and drag him around, shake him just brutally. Now, some of that could be shelter shock but not all of it. The other two boys perpetually beat on him. The first thing that I did was separate them and put little Mischief in with my mild mannered little girl Pandora Le Flert. Within days there was a huge difference. I continued to fight for that little guy's life until the day he died. He was the most loving little fellow and he certainly came into himself when he adopted Napoleon but he was the tiniest little thing. Smaller than any of my female Marshals. I wish I knew how to add photos and I would show you just what continued stress does to a ferret. I'm a strong believer that continued heightened stress will kill a ferret. With all that aside to the little one, it doesn't help the alpha female to be continually subjected to stress either. Personally, if this person doesn't want to run 2 businesses within his home, he should rehome that little one and give her a fighting chance. He will kill her this way. I'm sorry to be brutally frank but that's a fact. ciao |
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